i dont see why the hell people dont just weld the tube under the frame,,(works in the ass end from the factory),,,,hello, it would not only make bigger tires track a little better( caster angle), but would also be much easyier,,,,,but yes on the downside,it throws off the pinion angle,,,,,,,never mind me or the beer in my hand ,or the man behind the screen.....toto were not in kansas anymore..... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/sleeping.gif" alt="" />