In reply to why I want to add more lift. I'm getting a great deal on a used lift (1,000 new, my cost 250) my tires do rub up front, and I don't wany to cut my fenders. (just had a new paint job) I also want to return my torsion bars to the stock height for a smoother ride. The truck is used for trail riding and playing in the mud in north Florida, and south Georgia. No rock crawling, desert running or racing where instability is a problem. Besides isn't four wheeling supposed to be adventurous and "unstable". I would like to add the ARB in the front, but cannot justify the cost. (angry wife "you spent how much on that, just to make one more tire spin") They just don't understand. I appreciate everyones input however and have a lot to think about now. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/coolg.gif" alt="" />