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Idle Question (Again) #427390 04/01/04 12:35 AM
Anonymous
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Since this seems to be such a hot topic!

AT Idle, (WITHIN FIRST 3-5 Minutes drive time), will go above 1000rpm which in-turn causes the ECU to momentary cut off fuel to the engine.

Resulting in - Idle drops about 200-300 rpm. Then slowly climbs above 1000rmp. Repeat! Does this about 5 times WHILE ENGINE IS STILL WARMING UP.

Now, I know, if I lower my idle with the idle set screw. This would stop.

Problem is, currently the truck when ENGINE IS WARM (driving for 15 minutes or more), idle is about 800-850 RPM. Sometimes lower, if I coast to a stop with the clutch to the floor (700-800rpm).

So, If I lower the idle speed, it will then cause my truck to idle (lope) even worst. It would fix my Idle shut off during warming up, but once the engine is warmed up, my idle then would be TO LOW.


I'm assuming there is a sensor controling my idle speed, which may be getting info from my Coolant temp Sensors. Both coolent temp sensors are new (The sensors in front of the engine, behind the fan.)

Any Ideas?

Re: Idle Question (Again) #427391 04/01/04 12:47 AM
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Buster Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Make sure there's no air in your coolant system. Have you messed w/ the AFM?

Re: Idle Question (Again) #427392 04/01/04 12:50 AM
Anonymous
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kozaz,
Did you check your cold start injector?
How about tps & afm?

Re: Idle Question (Again) #427393 04/01/04 01:22 AM
Anonymous
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Pretty sure no air in coolant sysyem.

I've changed out AFM's with no effect.

Now that pesky TPS. I've attempted the adjustment about 3 times, (even bought a new one). Used Roger Browns write up.

Maybe I need yo go back and mess with it again Looks like I really need to learn what ohm setting to use on my ohm meter. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Re: Idle Question (Again) #427394 04/01/04 01:27 AM
Anonymous
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This is fuel injected?
Cold start injector? On a efi vehicle it actually acts like a choke on a carb. On a cold start up your idle will actually will be real high if it goes bad + other probs. ya might want to give it a checking!
Good Luck!

Re: Idle Question (Again) #427395 04/01/04 01:47 AM
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Esquire812 Offline
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Where in the hell you been??? Other day was thinking about ya and realized you aint been on here in some time.

Being in AZ, do you have AC in your truck? If so then check the A/C amplifier located up behind the glove box. It will be a little turn knob thingy...supposed to control some aspect of the idle with A/C equipped rigs. Not much help on how to check it I know...but its free to look into! lol
~Darin <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />


88' 4x4 *22R-EB Gen II*
87' $Runner *22R-EB Gen I*
85' Sillyca 22R-Esq

"I LIVE IN MY OWN WORLD...THEY KNOW ME WELL THERE"
Re: Idle Question (Again) [Re: Esquire812] #427396 04/01/04 01:53 AM
Anonymous
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It's called the "ac idle up" it's on the passenger side of the engine, it's usually plastic and has vac. lines attatched to it, it's soul purpose is when you turn your ac on and the compressor comes on it turns your idle up as not to dog your engine. This is only used when you have your ac on.
Good Luck!

Re: Idle Question (Again) #427397 04/01/04 02:02 AM
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4Crawler Offline
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Now that pesky TPS. I've attempted the adjustment about 3 times, (even bought a new one). Used Roger Browns write up.

Maybe I need yo go back and mess with it again Looks like I really need to learn what ohm setting to use on my ohm meter. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


Well, since you want to measure at most 10,000 ohms (10K ohms) you need to set the meter on a range that will measure at least that much. So 20,000 is greater than 10,000 so that would be good.

Meters vary in how they show infinite resistance, some have a sidewase "8" for infinity, some flash, etc. To see what your meter does, set it to ohms (any scale) then hold one probe in each hand (i.e the tips apart) and see what the meter says. You can also verify the meter is working properly by touching the tips of the probes together, it should read "0.00" or something like that, short circuit.

One suggestion you might consider is head over to Radio Shack and pick up a resistor or two of some common vallues, like 1000 ohms (1K) and then you can practice taking readings with it. For example on a 200 ohm meter scale, it would read infinite or over-scale, on 2000 ohm scale, it would read 1000 or 1.000 (if it reads in K-ohms), etc. Since you know what resistance it should be, you can verify that you are using and reading the meter properly.

Resistance is probably the hardest thing to measure, if the probes don't make good contact, or the surface is dirty or you have the wrong scale or plug the probes into the wrong terminals on the meter, you'll get a reading of some sort, but its likely to not be the actual reading.

Re: Idle Question (Again) #427398 04/01/04 02:06 AM
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Esquire812 Offline
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Noooooooooooooo! Other than that one, there is another one that is in the cab, located up high in a rectangular box behind the glovebox. Go figure, cant find the dang picture anymore. But here is aLINKY that describes its function and location.

I wouldnt lie to ya Nunsa, you are too fresh to the forums! lol
~Darin <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />

**Evaporator...thats the thing that its mounted on.


88' 4x4 *22R-EB Gen II*
87' $Runner *22R-EB Gen I*
85' Sillyca 22R-Esq

"I LIVE IN MY OWN WORLD...THEY KNOW ME WELL THERE"
Re: Idle Question (Again) [Re: Esquire812] #427399 04/01/04 02:09 AM
Anonymous
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Sorry Esquire!
I misunderstood your answer, I know what you mean now! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

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