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 Re: Strongest idler arm you can get
[Re: DaphneD]
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04/04/04 04:45 PM
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It was the radiator, that was in the way, could move it, but you don't need a functional box either, just the main shaft.
http://nitteberg.com -83 Pajero SWB Soft Top 2,3TD 35x14,5x15 PitBull Rocker Bodylift, LSD, PTO-winch, Intercooler, 2.85 gear's Gen2 upper a-arms, flipped and raised ball
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Re: Strongest idler arm you can get
[Re: DaphneD]
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04/04/04 06:11 PM
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I don't know if this makes any difference, but the pitman arm stud is on a swivel joint like the tie rods and ball joints where the idler stud just turns on a straight axis. Perhaps that would absorb the shock?
I have no doubt Nittenbergs setup works very well.. and congragulate him on this "in the box thinking"  Doug does point out a little know design feature.. that is one steering component typicly controls the linkage in rotation (along the axis of the steering gear). The reason this can be important is the if all your pivot points are not lined up (the balls on the inner tie rods. idler arm steering box) as you rotate the relay rod (the big link through the center) you will get a toe change. By putting one pivot in the front that keeps the linkage oriented properly this is reduced. I have not taken the Montero arm apart but other Mitsubshi designs are typicly done with a rubber bushing in the joint (along with the pivot). Again... not huge problem, but it is something you should at least be aware of. It gets more import if you tweak the relay rod or if as you rotate the rod you get a toe change. My old plymouth Arrow (Mits design) had this problem, all the joints checked out fine (seemingly) but it still wandered. Putting a new arm in fixed it since. People know that this fixed the problem, but were not realy sure why. Kevin
87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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Re: Strongest idler - lets make a group purchace and
[Re: Lester]
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04/04/04 10:19 PM
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If anyone wants a steering box, let me know soon. I have one I'm ready to toss in the garbage. If you want it, you'll need to pay shipping.
Two MRI's and a CAT scan....it's confirmed. I'm just not right in the head.
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Re: Strongest idler - lets make a group purchace and
[Re: lee_raider]
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04/05/04 03:39 AM
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If anyone wants a steering box, let me know soon. I have one I'm ready to toss in the garbage. If you want it, you'll need to pay shipping. Hmm, hold that puppy for me if nothing else. I am going to run this idea by my mechanic/ fabricator monday.......
1996 SR From the Area 51 Skunk Works. 37"BFG Tires, 5" lift, Rock Track 4:1 Case, Tom Woods Drive Shafts, Oasis Air, Front ARB, lifted gas tank, T-max winch and lots of stuff that cost too much.
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Re: Strongest idler - lets make a group purchace and
[Re: Lloyd Swartz]
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04/28/04 03:46 PM
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Hmm, hold that puppy for me if nothing else. I am going to run this idea by my mechanic/ fabricator monday....... Lloyd, what did you turn up on this? On my SWB project the idler is frozen. A new costs $60 and I have three extra steering boxes at this point...
Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand! Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu! FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
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Re: Strongest idler - lets make a group purchace and
[Re: MontyMcV]
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04/28/04 09:54 PM
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http://nitteberg.com -83 Pajero SWB Soft Top 2,3TD 35x14,5x15 PitBull Rocker Bodylift, LSD, PTO-winch, Intercooler, 2.85 gear's Gen2 upper a-arms, flipped and raised ball
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Re: Strongest idler - lets make a group purchace and
[Re: Nitteberg]
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04/28/04 10:29 PM
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So, just remount it 180* and bolt it on? I will open up a pump tonight, never been inside one. I'm guessing that what you cut off still leaves behind what you need to the shaft down to the Pitman to continue to function...
Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand! Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu! FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
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Re: Strongest idler - lets make a group purchace and
[Re: MontyMcV]
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04/29/04 05:13 PM
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So, just remount it 180* and bolt it on? I will open up a pump tonight, never been inside one. I'm guessing that what you cut off still leaves behind what you need to the shaft down to the Pitman to continue to function... That's correct
http://nitteberg.com -83 Pajero SWB Soft Top 2,3TD 35x14,5x15 PitBull Rocker Bodylift, LSD, PTO-winch, Intercooler, 2.85 gear's Gen2 upper a-arms, flipped and raised ball
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Re: Strongest idler - lets make a group purchace and
[Re: Nitteberg]
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04/29/04 05:27 PM
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Thanks. I thought I had an extra in storage. Turns out is for the Quest. I will have to wait until I pull apart the Raider frame this weekend. I'll post back...
Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand! Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu! FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
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Re: Strongest idler - lets make a group purchace and
[Re: lee_raider]
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04/29/04 10:23 PM
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My steering box is leaking so I could use one for an 87 Raider. Glad to pay for it if it does not leak. Bob Shaw superchief87@adelphia.net
87 Raizer, 4.3V6, Mod TH700R4,231CHD, detroit rear and LSD front, bouncy seats, 2" lift and 32x15 BFG MT tires.
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