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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: Kevin C]
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01/04/10 05:29 PM
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You can use the stock converter for a down pipe or get a custom made one. I had been running an old Starion converter that had long ago lost its guts. I found a source for a 16 gauge 304 ss mandrel bend for $30 with a 80? angle that fits pretty well. I also bought a couple of 1/2" thick flanges from Roadrace engineering and a SS flex pipe on E bay for $20. I used the factory turbo flange but ported it. Parts source By using the factory turbo flange i can run the pulse air system (SAS) for emmisions and it mounts the o2 sensor. I used 308 filler wire and a tri mix gas on my mig for the SS welds. Getting good looking welds was a challenge. Stainless does not weld as easily as mild steel. The starion converter will get you on the road but the custom down pipe gets you a faster spoolup and more hp. It also saves 4 lbs and the access to the flange bolts is a lot better than with the starion part. ![[Linked Image]](http://members.cox.net/kevincar1/flange.jpg) I turned the flanges in the lath to make a thinner section to weld to. I machined the other sides of the flanges in a lathe and they are flat enough that I dont need a gasket to get a good seal. Image of the stock housing after porting. The pipe bend is an 80? angle. Roadrace says its a 72? angle but dont believe them. Either way it fits better than a 90? bend. Kevin C Hello all, Im doing my Turbo swap and im down to the wiring. Problem is I cannot see the Pictures KevinC posted here or above this post can you? Im down to the wire harnness and worked on it all weekend with no luck with getting spark, I put in the upgraded spark box from the 88 tested power, I think im good with the stearing colum graft but Not sure Anyone have the Pictures of the finished Set up and grounding points?
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: 87monty]
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01/05/10 06:24 PM
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Received a PM from 87monty and thought I'd add to here... Hey there MontyMcV, You have helped me in the passed on a few questions about my turbo motor swap. I have the motor in and all plumbed up. I ran the wire harness as Discribed in the Turbo bible but still no spark! I have the upgraded sparkbox from an 88, Tapped into the stock monty harness. There were pictures in the turbo bible section from kevinC showing there connection points and stuff but I cannont see the picuters just red X's. So anyway Not sure at this point I pulled the motor from a running starion so I dont think anything is bad. Any pointers for this new venture?
Thanks for your time. Been a while since I did mine, and I was a newb then, so no great pearls of wisdom likely to come from me. Some comments/questions: 1. You say you have the newer knock box, but that it is tapped into the stock monty harness. What do you mean by that? You should be using the Quest main engine harness and splicing that into the Monty under the dash. 2. There is a part in the install where a wire needs to be pulled from the ECU to the coil. Either that, you you have to work with the Monty's and get it connected properly. I did the former and had no troubles. There was another guy who was just a few steps behind me in time sequence who had trouble with his and it worked out when he pulled the wire to the coil. Really busy at work right now. Try searching for my user and for 'dadrab' for threads back upwards of five years ago now.
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: MontyMcV]
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01/05/10 09:48 PM
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I hooked up the 88 spark box where the old one was on the starions harness. It was pretty easy to do Color to Color. As for this wire your saying to be pulled from the ecu I have not attempted. I found in the turbo Bible people here where using the stock monty coil wires to get there power Which I did and found 12V when I tune on the key. I will search for it as you said to do. maybe going to the ecu is my ticket.
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: 87monty]
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01/05/10 10:35 PM
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There is a blue/white stripe wire in the starion harness engine side that goes to the coil- for the tach signal to the engine.
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: 87monty]
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01/05/10 11:05 PM
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I have some PMs with dadrab mid October 2004. They are following the topic of the wiring when he was not getting spark. Unfortunately, I do not have my sent PMs from the same time.
I did trade a quick "how's it going" email with him a few weeks ago. I'll send him another and see if he can jump online for a some input.
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: MontyMcV]
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01/06/10 02:05 AM
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I have some PMs with dadrab mid October 2004. They are following the topic of the wiring when he was not getting spark. Unfortunately, I do not have my sent PMs from the same time.
I did trade a quick "how's it going" email with him a few weeks ago. I'll send him another and see if he can jump online for a some input. I sent him a PM on a different forum(he was on today actually) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: 87monty]
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01/06/10 02:10 AM
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I need to fire up an old computer to get a hold of my wiring pictures. It's a mini project, they are on a raid array I just need to get teh sytems back up and running again.
It would be great if we could edit this thread to change the location of where the photos were located.
Kevin
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: Kevin C]
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01/06/10 03:01 AM
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I emailed Ed as well.
Can't edit the old ones (obviously, I know). If you want to send the pics to me, I'll upload to MitsuLinks and repost yours with new links.
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: Kevin C]
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01/06/10 03:02 AM
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Thanks guys for all your help. I wanna do it right and not rush things at all. Pictures would be great kevin Then I can see whats going on. Ill look for that blue and white wire, its on the injector side of the engine harness? I may have taped it up.
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post
[Re: 87monty]
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01/06/10 08:49 PM
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I have been searching on and off (between meetings and phone calls) ever since I read McV's email this morning. Here's the thread I started explaining the extra wire I pulled that finally gave me spark. Long and short of it is to pull a wire from the blue wire at B-38 to coil hot (+). I truly hope it helps you, man.
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