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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible article project post [Re: fasteddy] #451245 01/13/10 02:15 AM
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87monty Offline
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It said 87 on the door cant remember the month.
Thats why I wanted the car because it was the same year as my montero.



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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible ADD 87 Starion B38 connector [Re: fasteddy] #451246 01/13/10 02:19 AM
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The ecu harness side of the 87 b38 connector (10 slot, 5x5) connections are as follows, catch up, 1-5 top row, 6-10 bottom row: (the number, like 2 or 1.25, in front of the letter color code are the xsect area of the conductor, the bigger the fatter)

1> empty and not used
2> 2BY (fat black yellow stripe #2) ground this terminal for m/t and wire to NSS in a/t
3> 1.25B (med fat black) constant 12v+ from battery
4> 2L (fat blue) wire to 12v+ ign. on
5> epmty and not used
6> LgB (Light Green with black stripe avg size) nice but not necessary - can hook to reed switch in speedo or 4wd light controller end of same wire
7> YG (yellow green stripe) not used in transplant-fake boost gauge wire
8> empty and not used
9> 2BY (fat black yellow stripe #1) wire to 12v+ ign start position
10> BR (avg black with red stripe) ecu codes output wire - extend to within easy inside the cab reach and read with a circuit tester light for codes 1 to 6.


From this Post it sounds like my 87 Plug



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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible ADD 87 Starion B38 connector [Re: 87monty] #451247 01/13/10 03:24 AM
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fasteddy Offline OP
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I wonder where I got that?

OK, now I know. The wiring diagram in the 87 electrical manual is different than the diagram in the fuel system section. The fuel system section matches the one in your last post, and on checking, is correct. The ignition system diagram in the electrical book also has a 14pole connector shown for the b38, but the only wires in question are the 1.25B battery hot wire and the blue ign on wire, which are covered in the 10pole post.

Wire like the 10pole as shown. I'll edit my erroneous post above.

Good catch.


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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible ADD 87 Starion B38 connector [Re: fasteddy] #451248 01/13/10 04:21 AM
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I thought I was going Crazy! Ok so now were on the same page, Question can I still wire the #2 and #9 together for Ign start power? Or do I need the nns hooked to #2?



2003 limited 20 year anniversary
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87 Montero SWB=Turbo diesel 4BT
T19 4sd with 205 transfer case
Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible ADD 87 Starion B38 connector [Re: fasteddy] #451249 01/13/10 04:35 AM
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MontyMcV Offline
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Remember that 87 Quest FSM has the 88 diagram in it.


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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible ADD 87 Starion B38 connector [Re: MontyMcV] #451250 01/13/10 05:09 AM
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I thought I was going Crazy! Ok so now were on the same page, Question can I still wire the #2 and #9 together for Ign start power? Or do I need the nns hooked to #2?


NO! ground 2. 9 goes to ign st 12v+.


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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible ADD 87 Starion B38 connector [Re: fasteddy] #451251 01/13/10 05:14 AM
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87monty Offline
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Ok will do just thought id ask. I saw it posted that they were running them together. Iv went over this topic 15 times! I know I ask alot of Questions but I cant afford to burn anything up!
Thanks for clearing this up for me.

Last edited by 87monty; 01/13/10 05:21 AM.


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87 Montero SWB=Turbo diesel 4BT
T19 4sd with 205 transfer case
Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible ADD 87 Starion B38 connector [Re: 87monty] #451252 01/15/10 09:17 PM
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dadrab Offline
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Also check to make sure your ECU is an 87.

I posted a chart somewhere (years ago) that outlined the iterations of StarQuest ECUs through the years. There were quite a few and most of the changes were unremarkable except for the 86. It's a bastard and doesn't play well with any other model years in any combination.

I'm sorry I left you hanging with a couple of question before, but I used the 88-89 Starion harness on my swap and by the time I'd pulled my wiring out to look at that wire from B-38, it had already been assessed that you're using the 87 harness and the plug is different.

As to ignition wiring, I recall nothing. Fact is, Eddy and I changed up at least one wire in there while we were trying to run down my gremlin and I don't have any recollection of what that was.

The truth of the matter is that I'm too damn lazy to take the steering column back apart to look. (head hung in shame) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />


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88/89 intercooled Starion Turbo engine-
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Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible ADD 87 Starion B38 connector [Re: dadrab] #451253 01/15/10 10:51 PM
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It ok Bud, I think im narrowing it down. And by the post you have had in the past was a long time ago. If you dont do it every day you just plan forget. The ECU is an 87, I found this link on the Dizzy that could help people in the Future.
I hope this weekend it will start!!!
http://starquest.i-x.net/viewtopic.php?t=1131

Last edited by 87monty; 01/15/10 11:22 PM.


2003 limited 20 year anniversary
96 SR
87 Montero SWB=Turbo diesel 4BT
T19 4sd with 205 transfer case
Re: The TURBO CONVERSION Bible ADD 87 Starion B38 connector [Re: 87monty] #451254 01/18/10 05:41 PM
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87monty Offline
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Got it running this weekend! Purrs Like a kitten..
The reason I didn't have spark was the Fuel Injector Resistor Box was not hooked up!!! I had it from the car but did not know what it was for. Wow what a long road.
I love tapping the gas and hearing the turbo spool up!!!
Thanks for all your help guys <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />



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