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Re: Could the Diff drop break CV's? [Re: larsdennert] #454471 05/27/04 05:21 PM
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Ok, simple problem, simple solution. I put some sheet rubber under the diff so it doesn't directly contact the plate. Works great. I got the idea from the stock xfer plate which uses that idea.

Re: Could the Diff drop break CV's? [Re: larsdennert] #454472 05/27/04 05:40 PM
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Re: Could the Diff drop break CV's? [Re: larsdennert] #454473 05/28/04 03:16 AM
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Bear with me here. The diff drop procedure improves CV angles on lifted trucks when they are sitting level. This is a good thing. Moreover, at full droop the angles are also better. However, at full droop there isn't much weight on the wheel and hence not much torque flowing through the CV so I would think there is less chance of breakage. When the wheel is fully stuffed, the CV angle is worse than before and if you have a locker up front there is more torque flowing through that CV shaft since so much weight is on that wheel.

Do you think it would make it more likely to break a CV because of this reason?


I think it would be more likely to break under the situation of a stuffed front wheel and the need for an engaged front locker, I'm trying to picture situations where the front wheel or wheels would be stuffed and there would be the need to engage the front locker. Most of the time when I engage the front locker I'm going up a steep incline and the truck's weight is shifted to the rear. Under that condition the front wheels don't have enough weight to stuff them.

One situation would be where the truck is going down a steep gully and hitting a sharp climb up the other side. Another would be climbing a steep incline in reverse.


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Re: Could the Diff drop break CV's? [Re: mt_goat] #454474 05/28/04 04:56 AM
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That's a great point. Many people break the CVs while trying to climb stuff. A bit of bouncing and full droop might be the recipe. What do you think if one wheel is stuffed and the other dangling, front locker engaged? Which side would break? The dangling one that might bounce off the rocks or the stuffed one with weight on it? With a locker you only get bounce if both wheel are slipping so it's hard to say.

Re: Could the Diff drop break CV's? [Re: larsdennert] #454475 05/28/04 01:59 PM
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What do you think if one wheel is stuffed and the other dangling, front locker engaged? Which side would break? The dangling one that might bounce off the rocks or the stuffed one with weight on it? With a locker you only get bounce if both wheel are slipping so it's hard to say.


I'd guess in that case the stuffed one would be most likely to break especially if there is a hard turn thrown in. I guess that's more of a rock crawling situation where you would need both axles locked. I'll probably try to get by with just the rear locker engaged if I get in that situation, plus it's so hard to make a turn with the front locked.


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Re: Could the Diff drop break CV's? [Re: mt_goat] #454476 05/29/04 09:07 AM
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I agree that it would be more likely to break the side with the stuffed wheel. The engine can put more torque to the front axle than what it can withstand. The drooped wheel would slip before the axle broke.


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