Sounds to me a guy couldn't go wrong going to either one of you fellers... but you're not in CO!

One issue you could be having problems with is the use of Pag oil in a retrofited R12 system that had mineral oil. Pag & Mineral oil do not mix well. I use Ester 100 synthetic oil in all my retrofits because it is not affected by either mineral or PAG. Just a suggestion.

Ok...well..I don't need to research the facts. They are common knowledge. With ASE Master Cert and my shop specializing in A/C work....you also are not conversing with an entry level or novice. So if you are well aware of their application, you know that mineral oil is for R12, PAG for factory R134, and Ester for any of the 3, especially Retros, right? Ok...well...as long as our processes are both reliable and have the same end result, who cares. My business reputation & customer satisfaction is proof enough for me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I am just mearly trying to help people on the boards.

Contamination can really suck. Ya see when I dont flush the toilet after sitting down and putting something together...my dogs get really PISSED at me for contaminating their secondary water source. Well at least one of them does...the other one loves it. But he likes ass in general so that should be of no surprise.

Lighten up fellas...no need to go at armed with 80grit here.

~Gawd <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />

Agreed Esquire! The original poster of this question was 93Corunner, he's probably so confused that he rather just roll down his window and call it a day!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" />

Sorry guys...its all good now. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hey 93Corunner, if the system was just empty but still closed up, I.E. all hoses and fittings connected, you may be able to get away with a simple retro.

Spin the front of the compressor with your hand...not the actual pulley, they from of the compressor clutch. If you can turn it by hand, the compressor is not locked up which more then likely, no metal shavings have gone through.

Replace all the orings, especially the ones under the dash at the expansion valve. These are common leak spots on the Toyotas. To play it safe, put a new receiver/dryer on also since this is the water trap and filter for the system.

At this point, you should have a vacuum drawn on the system by a reputable shop. Could just as easy let them charge it also. System should get 6-8oz of Ester 100 oil and should be charged to 75-85% of the R12 capacity. Might even have them add a shot of dye to the system to help with any potential future leaks. I do this automatically with all A/C services.

Hope this helps!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yes because 99% of the time, the system is almost empty of oil anyway. The refrigerant carries the oil so when it leaks out, it usually takes the oil along with it. I have always done it this way as I was trained and never had a problem.

Granted if you you want to follow everything to a T, the system will need flushed. BUT it is not necessary.