thanks much man, ive found one of em right behind the bumper.. unfortunately the bumper was sent underneath the bed in the wreck, and getting to anything down there is a *****. going to go buy a hacksaw, then we'll try again. smile

also, found a little box back there that both tail light cables and trailer/license lighting cables go through, then it all runs up towards cab.. whats that little box? looks awfully nasty whatever it does.

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