I look for it next time, I must have missed it. I don't think my daughters (23, 16) or son (14) will go for want to see their parents nekkid, however. That's the stuff of nightmares.

I should have known it was around there, I found a lot of trash in that area, including a run-down tent also full of garbage; some of which we cleaned up (loose garbage/cans/bottles) and some of which we found a ranger and reported it so they could clean it up (tent full of water and other garbage).

River was too high when I was there to ford (spring; still some ice on the gound in the higher areas of the trail).

Isn't the route shorter from the other side? http://az-offroad.com/ doesn't pull up from here either but they had a writeup on it when I last looked.

I'll be home (Phoenix) next week and see if I can pull up your pictures.

Thanks, Wayne