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Need shocks and coils NOW! 92 4runner #465331 06/17/04 02:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 189
Jason_dup1 Offline OP
Wheeler
Okay guys,
Dealership has to replace all the steering components and BJ's at their cost under the NYS lemon law. (Long story, but it all started with an improperly torqued wheel bearing by the dealer after turning rotors) BUT, it doesn't cover shocks or springs.... My rear is sagging, and all 4 shocks are bad.

I have to order coils and shocks SOON, and have a couple questions.

I am thinking of getting all stock stuff, mainly due to cost. All 4 shocks, 2 rear coils, and top and bottom "insulators" (rubber cushions on top and bottom of coils) will be $250 to my door from www.1sttoyotaparts.com .
My other choice is OME medium set. Coils, shocks and steering stabilizer for around $478 shipped from www.rocky-road.com

Now, given my two choices, does anybody have anything bad to say about ride quality (RIDE QUALITY is what I'm after) of a stock suspension system on a stock 4runner that will see 95% pavement? This is my new daily driver, and I have my truck for the real bad (fun) stuff. This 4runner WILL see many fire roads, some light off-roading and will be towing a 20' boat LOTS this summer. This runner will get about 15k miles of highway under it by the end of this year.
Regarding the OME setup, do these springs lift the back so much you need to adjust the torsion bars in front? And if so, is this a PITA? I would like to get a "good feeling" suspension under this thing, with some off-road ability, good on-road manners, and not that "boat" feeling in corners and sudden stops etc.
Thank you all for your help.
Jason


1992 4runner, all stock, just got it. only 24k miles!!!!!!!!

1992 Toy Pickup V-6 Reg Cab
33 BFT AT/ko, 3 lift
230k miles
Re: Need shocks and coils NOW! 92 4runner [Re: Jason_dup1] #465332 06/17/04 06:11 PM
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Jason_dup1 Offline OP
Wheeler
ANYBODY? PLEASE?


1992 4runner, all stock, just got it. only 24k miles!!!!!!!!

1992 Toy Pickup V-6 Reg Cab
33 BFT AT/ko, 3 lift
230k miles
Re: Need shocks and coils NOW! 92 4runner [Re: Jason_dup1] #465333 06/17/04 06:20 PM
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SHAD Offline
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I run LC80 coils but it's not for the cushy ride. I would check out downey or ome. Or heck just run some coil spacers sounds like you are keeping it somewhat stock.


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Re: Need shocks and coils NOW! 92 4runner [Re: Jason_dup1] #465334 06/17/04 06:23 PM
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4Crawler Offline
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Replacing stock springs with stock springs would not really solve your rear ride height issues, at least for very long, unless you added a spacer to raise up the back end. Some sort of heavier rear spring or a lift spring would probably work better. Torsion bar adjustments are not too hard, unless you have rust or other damage to the adjusting hardware.

Re: Need shocks and coils NOW! 92 4runner [Re: 4Crawler] #465335 06/17/04 07:09 PM
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Jason_dup1 Offline OP
Wheeler
I guess the stock coils just sag after awhile. There are only 25k miles on this 4runner, but it IS a 92. Gravity is a B$#%^ I'm really leaning towards the OME coils and shocks, but it has been very hard for me to find any good information on what is involed in putting them in. I know they go on like a normal shock and spring. But if the back is higher with these coils, then I guess I'd have to crank the t-bars? Is cranking these w/ADD any different than manual hubs?
I'd love to find somewhere that has info on these in a 2nd generation runner. EVERYTHING I find is for the 3rd gens.
Thank you for your help so far.
Jason


1992 4runner, all stock, just got it. only 24k miles!!!!!!!!

1992 Toy Pickup V-6 Reg Cab
33 BFT AT/ko, 3 lift
230k miles
Re: Need shocks and coils NOW! 92 4runner [Re: Jason_dup1] #465336 06/17/04 07:27 PM
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Stock springs were built to give a soft cushy ride. Soft cushy springs sag, especially when loaded up with gear or pulling trailers, etc. I imagine Toyota gets 100 complaints about a harsh ride for every one that suspension is too soft. Or use stock springs ad add air shocks or air bags to add lift and load capacity when needed.
A whole bunch of 2nd gen suspension reviews on the Toyota section on 4x4wire...

Cranking t-bars is no different w/ ADD.

Re: Need shocks and coils NOW! 92 4runner [Re: 4Crawler] #465337 06/17/04 08:07 PM
Anonymous
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I put Downeys and new shocks on my '95 (2nd gen) in one afternoon/evening.

Downeys:
I used the heavy duty springs (1.5in longer) plus 1.5in blocks and spent pretty close to the same prices you're looking at, ordering from Downey.
What I thought was going to be 3 inches of lift on the rear actually gave me 4.5 inches of lift, evidence that my stock had sagged 1.5 inches in about 8 years <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" /> (I replaced 1995 springs in 2003). The heavy duty springs are the same price as the light springs, and do _not_ make the truck ride rough. In fact, my girlfriend who is a city girl, would rather ride in my truck than her car, if that tells you anything.

Front Torsion Bars:
Unless your front sags, don't bother. My front wheelwell trim is within 3/4 of an inch of the back, or at least it was when I did the springs. I haven't measured since then but it doesn't seem much different.

Shocks:
The only downside to ordering everything from Downey was that I ordered shocks through them, which delayed the order several weeks until they got them....then the shocks busted very quickly and I ended up going with Ranchos 5000s. In short: don't go with Doetsch Techs, the shocks Downey recommends.
Rancho 5000s do have the problem of being made for a smaller-diameter stud than the 4Runner has, but I knocked out the rubber bushings and put in the bushings from my old shocks. You may be able to drill the new bushings out larger, but as I recall, it was easier to reuse. The Rancho 5000s are a little bit longer, so I wouldn't use them if you don't put the 1.5in. blocks in with the springs.
Some time after I put Ranchos on the back, I decided to replace the front shocks as well, and went with Monroes from Autozone. No problems so far, they do everything I coudl ask for.

Good luck on your suspension.

Last edited by Injohneer; 06/17/04 08:17 PM.

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