Yea the orange ones are the only ones that I've been using. except I've switched to the "8" filter. I like the idea of more filter area. as for the drain back, every one I've taken off has been heavy and that includes the one that sat overnight.

for some reason I've been disecting the filters after changes, but haven't found anything but brown filter media. that's a good thing, but for some reason I feel compelled to cut every single one open. [greenie mode]at least I can drain the oil out this way[/greenie mode] <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />..............Karl