Nunsa says he spent like 1700 bucks. It would be cool if he ever gets his motor on the dyno but for 1700 rebuilding the 3.0 is really tempting.

One thing to remember though, you were working with 6 valve heads right? The guy who's putting the Camry heads on his motor is using other parts off of other motors. Seems to me he's going to come in well under 3K and have 3.4 power.

Frank

Actually, I spent $1800! I had my heads redone w/competition valves, polished.... Blah, blah!
I got a rebuild kit from toyotaperformance and I had the injectors done and the most important, knock sensor and wire! I'm still breaking her in, but I can notice the improvement! Like I said, I go up this steep hill every freaken' morning on my way to work, before I had to DS because top speed that I could get was 40 - 45 mph! Now, I can take her in 4th gear at 55 - 60! So, it made an improvement all and all! My old MPG was around 20 -22, now I get around 21 - 24! Not bad for a 3.0! It's stock, 31" tires! I have about another 400 - 500 miles & I'll ring her on the dyno and let ya'll know! Till then, ride safe!
I didn't have the cabbage for a 3.4 swap, but I love the 3.0's! My opinion for what it's worth! If you know what I mean ElRipster!
Harry <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

The $3000 was just for all the performance extra's (heads, cams, porting work..ect) add on another $1500 for the rebuild kit and the machine work. By the time I got done adding in the new clutch and a few other things my total was almost $5000 to rebuild the 3.0L and weezle every bit of legal (I still have to pass emissions) horsepower I could out of it....the 3.4L was $4500 in and finished and I admit I didn't get a great deal on the motor.

With all due respect to nunsa...I don't believe a word he says....if he's not exagerating a lot, than he has the only magic 3.0L out there. No one, but no one advocates the 3.0L for power. Not that it's a bad motor....the thing will run forever....just not ever gonna be a powerfull motor.

1800 is still much less than the 3.4 and keeps the difficulty at just a motor rebuild.

Frank

Your right! It's not the most powerful engine and I don't have the most powerful 3.Slo as you say! But, my rebuild fit my budget! That's important! It's now faster than stock you can give me that at least! I just favor the 3.0, I like it, it works for me! Can you make them run? You betta ya!
I'm a firm believer that people are afraid of the 3.0's because they don't understand them! I rebuilt these summabtches left and right, so I know them well! I know what makes 'em tick!
The crossover is a freaken' shame! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> I'll repeat that, the crossover is a freaken' shame! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />
When I go down the Interstate, I can cruise at 85+ mph with plenty of reserve! Does the 3.0 work for me! Yes, it fits my budget! It has plenty a hp's to get me where I'm going!
I love the 3.0! Most will disagree but at least it isn't attatched to a auto trans!
The 3.0 might be slow but it has plenty a power to go!
My name is Harry & I authorize this post! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Why do you think Nunsa's is magic? He has more power and is happy with it. Let's remember, he actually DID something here as opposed to regurgitate tired old rhetoric. That deserves something in my book. Also, I read posts from others who again, actually do things to the motor, and they say time and time again the truck is faster with a few exceptions.(I'll talk about that in a minute)

Still, it's often about the gain Vs. cost. Nunsa spent half the money of a 3.4 and probably half the work.

I too don't *need* all the 3.4's power, I'd just like some upper RPM band. I'm under geared as it is and could well take advantage of higher end torque.

Too get back to what Bill and I were talking about (and also note an exception I ran into recently) with the gearing, one reason some people might not *see* the differences in mods as much as others is because of this. Moding a motor for better breathing generally moves peak torque higher up the RPM band. (Power is the rate at which the motor makes torque.) In order to take advantage of that, proper, and usually lower gearing is necessary. In order to say speed up an over geared truck (which most autos are out of the box) you need significantly more torque in the lower/mid ranges. That usually means building a stroker, adding forced induction, or a just plain bigger motor. To do otherwise is to have a gearing mismatch which I suspect is nearly always blamed, incorrectly, on the motor.

Frank

Thanks Frank! A lot of you thought I was crazy as a loon for r&r my 3.0! I will say again: The torque & Hp works for me & my budget, it moves my 4200 lbs truck fine! Yeah, I might have gone against the grain, so to speak, but I always was one for marching to the beat of my own drum!My 3.0 was worth every $1800 that I put into it! I was going to get rid of this truck & buy another, but I changed my mind & decided to stick some cabbage into her! She never let me down except when my clutch went, but that was my fault,"just one more mile!" The torque that I have in 1st & 2nd is unreal! Do I go 4wheeling? I do! And I have never gotten stuck! There's nothing wrong with the 3.0, you have to know how to tame them! Once you figure that out, look out, 'cause she will fly! Believe it or not! Like Frank said: "I don't need all the 3.4 power!" Either do I, my 3.0 works for me & that's who counts! Slowly but surely I'm rebuilding and modifying this truck! Yes, I should have went w/headers but I still got time! One thing at a time! Would I rather have a 3.4? HHMMMM! Probably not! The 3.4 is designed & made for a '95+ Tacoma & 4runner! I can't see changing my wiring harness, ecu....! Especially for the price involved! I'm happy w/investing $1800 to give me more power/torque out of my 3.0! The 3.0 is a very misunderstood engine, to understand it is to know it, love it! It breathes,(roughly), sleeps (mostly), eats!
So ladies & gents, you can have you 3.4's & 22r's! I like my 3.0 because I understand it!
That's what it's all about!
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> to ya!
Harry

LMAO!!

Relax...I wasn't tryin to insult anyone, I just disagree. I bet it is faster than stock...no argument there at all. But I've been reading your comments about how you'll beat a 3.4L any day.... and how there's no need for a swap and I'm sorry, but I just don't buy 24 mpg AND more power out of it....I'm not sure I even buy 24 MPG.

I did the research, found out what the possibilities were with the 3.0 and I went a different route. I'll tell ya what though. I've got a 3.0L in my garage and I'll give it to ya for nothing....FREE...come and get it!

I've got no arguement about taller gears.....but those are gears, not a motor.

I keep very good track of my MPG! I'll send you a spreadsheet with all the stats on! I also always use 93 octane. w/o the 93 I only get about 19 - 20! No freaken' Sh**! My 3.0's aren't faster than the 3.4, but , It will give the 3.4 a run for it's money! I don't want your 3.0!, 88 - 90 were the best yrs. for a 3.0, as long as the trans was a manual! If you want the Xcel spreadsheet for my MPG let me know so I can E-mail it to ya! Heh, Heh! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" />

No thanks.....I'm not even interested enough in my own gas milage to keep a spreadsheet