OK, Scotty -

I just spent some time on your original post and see where you're coming from and in the case of the click-type torque wrench you're correct that length of handle doesn't make any difference, so long as you use the torque reading as force applied to the extension with the correction formula. The problem here is the confusion that's lost in the discussion in confusing beam-type and break-over type wrenches - just as your example of turning a lever on a fire hydrant had nothing to do with like action on a break-over type of wrench. Anyway.... anyway....

Anyway, all of this talk of fire-hydrants makes me want to get something to drink - or urinate on something - can't decide which. Decisions.... decisions..... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Like the first 2 questions I learned in Spanish:

Would you please bring me 2 Coronas?

Where is the servicio de caballeros?

Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Ah, this seems to work, Thanks, I new it was simple, just couldn't remember and didn't want to go dig through my notes.

As mentioned earlier there is alot of misinformation on the net, and in my first google search before I posted this thread I found some interesting formulas which added in parameters not necessary for the calculation.

I am personally thankfull this discussion didn't get to way out to get pulled. Hope everyone learned some new stuff along the way. I know my brain received some excercise.

@Isayityoucanbelieveit: Welcome to the board and I guess you earned the Nickname "scotty" hehehe, stick around lots of good stuff here. hijack: What you driving?

A member wants info on extension correction formulae (see thread title).A 1000 post member blindly directs him to erroneous data.I point the errors out and offer a useful formula ,steeling myself for an intellectual rebuttal that never comes.Instead let's change the subject to a Miss Manners lesson. Now we have a 2000 post member chime in.You both disagree with me,but neither of you have shown the relevance of torque wrench length in the formulae you seem to offer. Scotty

Scotty - tell you what, Bud.... if I'm ever inclined to dig into either your formula or the formulae I pasted I'll be glad to let you know the outcome of my findings. As of yet I haven't and have no real desire to do so. I'm willing to accept the possibility that your formula is correct until proven otherwise - since I have no need to test it at the moment. However, the things I find relevant - or irrelevant - likely differ from your own.

Oh, I never pay attention to Miss Manners..... she's a bit too much of a snotty social climber for my taste.... I suggest Amy Vanderbilt and Emily Post... they were far more refined and dignified. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Frank

Forgot to say it, but welcome to the board. Please excuse me for the abrasive comments as I've had a pretty tough couple of days. But...

...a 4 post member with an annoyingly unidentifiable username that takes up half of my screen width, no truck info in his signature, and seems like he's masquerading as another member who just wants to get into the argument without the other board memebers knowing his name has the arrogance to jump in and start arguing with 1000+ post members without first saying "Hi, I'm new to the board". Just seems suspicious to me.

I was enjoying the information posted in here and then all of a sudden there's some guy I've never heard of before who's making innuendo about masturbating characters from Star Trek with hand tools while trying to state knowledge in refutation to other longstanding members information... erroneous or otherwise, I know them.

I'm sure you understand - it seems a little strange. But that's not the topic of this thread, so I'll finish here and stay out of the way. Although I would appreciated if you would consider a shorter username so I won't have to scroll to the right in every post you make in the future. Thank you for your time. Please continue.

Ah, leave it alone, Doug - after all, the fellow may be correct - even if annoying in manner. Some game just ain't worth the ammo. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Frank

Magoo,I'm glad you found the formula useful.I came to this site looking for that info but instead had to develop it myself.Glad you liked my weak attempts at humor,a little levity on the forums is always welcome,by me anyway. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

P.S.My need for the formula arose when trying to properly tighten the spokes on my Honda CRF250X dirt bike.Aluminum spokes,aluminum nipples and a 2.7 ft/lb specification put a little trepidation in me.I have an in/lb torque wrench and an open end spoke wrench but I don't have a $100+ spoke torque wrench,hence the need for the formula.

Scotty

I accept your apology and the validity of most of your criticisms.I should have introduced myself.The problem with my username length was unforseen and apparently unchangeable.I assure you there is only one of me on this forum.
Scotty

Apparently so since all you've shot so far are blanks.Your prose is smooth but your ability to follow a specific point seems nonexistent.A mile wide and an inch deep seems to define your intellectual curiosity pretty well. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Scotty

Easy does it Scotty. A little less acid will go a long way. Flaming members is not tolerated on this board, fire hydrant analogy notwithstanding. And that point, you can believe...

PHIL <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />