Fair 'nuff, all good points. The 3.0 has every appearance of a rushed design. The 3.4 was their second whack at it, and it was outta da park IMHO. Having owned both I have strong feelings on it.

I put reliability and joy of mechanicking a skoash above moving power, so to each their own, which is precisely Harry's point I think.

-Bill
'87 4Runner w/ '96 5VZ-FE, 'Red Chili II'
'97 Taco XtraCab 3RZ-FE, 'BlackBean'
TLCA # 13257, Rising Sun 4x4 Club Land Use Coordinator
"He who stops being better stops being good." -Oliver Cromwell