</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by DirtyHarry:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by elripster:
<strong>Harry is absolutely right. <snip></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">You should have just stopped right here. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
I agree that the 3.0L gets a bad wrap, but I don't think that you see ANYONE claiming huge mileage numbers with lifted trucks with big tires, regardless of the motor. Most of them are not daily drivers, but when they do get used they get used hard.
Another thing that has not been mentioned outside of displacement is the ratio of stroke to bore. As a general rule, longer strokes produce more torque but do not rev as high. The 22RE is slightly oversquare, with a stroke of 89 mm and a bore of 92 mm. The 3VZE is undersquare, with a stroke of 90 and a bore of 87.5.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Aw come on now, you know I could just stop there!
I'm making huge mileage numbers with a daily driven trail rig. Which is Ok because on Tuesday my bike went into the shop with electrical problems and my car, which I'm trying to sell, had AC issues. I have the car back but the bike is still in. The truck is always there though. I love my truck.
By the numbers, the 3.0 would be the better truck motor as it will produce more torque. It does not rev very high so I could see how these numbers work in.
Funny obsersvation. But is it really so good that one has to wrench on their engine so often that they really worry about simplicity? That doesn't sound like a reliable engine to me. I mean if I have to work on my truck big time it will be so few and far between it just isn't really an issue. The day to day convenience overwhelmes the inconvenience of repair work.
I have had my pedal mashed to the floor for hours too climbing tall mountains under full load with over geared drive train. I didn't have to worry about over heating even with the AC on. It just flat out would not get more than a little over half way up no matter how hard I flogged it. I actually tried just to see what she'd take and she came through fine.
Well you guys have fun wrenching on your simple engines. I'm going to drive my 274,000 mile 3.0 in the fast lane with the AC on up hills with people in it. Tell me how the repair work goes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
That said I think I'm due for an oil change.......
Frank.
