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Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? #510275 10/06/04 09:16 PM
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HorribleHarry Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I have been looking at previous posts, & I can't find any information on what is out there as far as a Full locking differential like a detroit... etc
Do any of y'all have any information on what I can stuff in the back of a 1st Gen SWB... this side of the ol' "Lincoln" locker, or is the ARB air locker the only way?
Thank you,
Harry


LOOKING FOR A DIESEL TROOPER OR A MONTERO SR
89 Range Rover Hunter edition 4X4
87 VW Vanagon Syncro 4X4
87 Monty, SWB, 2.6, auto 4X4 (sold)
86 Jeep FSJ 360 auto 2" lift 4X4 (sold)
87 VW Jetta 300,000 miles & counting... not 4x4
Re: Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? [Re: HorribleHarry] #510276 10/06/04 10:54 PM
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Not 100% sure but I believe the ARB is the only available locker unless you want to swap gen II/III parts in.

Gen II's have an LP air actuated locker stock from the factory but different sized diff than the gen I.

Gen III's have an LSD that's supposedly modifyable with a few parts to make it a locker but I don't know if anyones even seriously considered putting one in a Gen I.

IMHO, unless you're really going hard core (beyond the difficulty of the Rubicon) and/or simply don't have enough articulation then you're a likely canditate for needing a Locker. Otherwise, you can likely get buy with a properly functioning LSD and it's safer on the street. FWIW I've personally done the 'con w/ only a rear LSD.

Of course getting a locker just so you can say you have one is a whole different story. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? [Re: off-roader] #510277 10/06/04 11:04 PM
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i was told once that some one managed to fit a Detroit locker. this was very long ago.


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Re: Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? [Re: NumLock] #510278 10/06/04 11:34 PM
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hmmmm, I recall hearing that too but couldn't even remotely confirm it nor be sure I wasn't mis-remembering a thread.

I know that some have put custom detroits int the front diff & you can also put a starion LSD up front.


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89 Montero minty clean and reserved for overlanding trips or Cars and Coffee events
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Re: Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? [Re: off-roader] #510279 10/07/04 01:22 AM
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is there any way to stiffin up the lsd to make it more 50/50 power distribution??like stiffer springs in the clutch pack??
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Re: Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? #510280 10/07/04 01:44 AM
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is there any way to stiffin up the lsd to make it more 50/50 power distribution??like stiffer springs in the clutch pack??
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


Not that I'm any kind of expert on them and I do hope someone else chimes in who does know about clutches but maybe the clutch plates & springs are replaceable?

Is your intension to improve them or simply bring them back up to their original "new LSD" performance levels?


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89 Montero minty clean and reserved for overlanding trips or Cars and Coffee events
96SR (3.15:1 xcase, 35's) gone to the rust gods
96SR Build Up Thread
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Re: Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? [Re: off-roader] #510281 10/07/04 08:46 AM
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lee_raider Offline
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Otherwise, you can likely get buy with a properly functioning LSD and it's safer on the street.


What makes you say a LSD is safer on the street than something else, such as a selectable locker?? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Or even an open diff??


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Re: Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? [Re: off-roader] #510282 10/07/04 01:58 PM
Anonymous
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Is your intension to improve them or simply bring them back up to their original "new LSD" performance levels?


well kinda... if i am right on these what keeps them puttin power to both wheels is the clutches inside the rear end.. right?? they are controlled by springs..stock the power distribution is probly 25/75??? mabe?? so if you put stiffer springs there will be more pressure on the clutches and more like a 50/50 power distribution. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

Re: Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? #510283 10/07/04 02:59 PM
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I think Bigblue was modifying a front LSD with more springs/clutches. It was in a thread not too long ago I think. He might have some info on that subject.

Re: Locking Diff...Gen 1 SWB... is there anything out there besides air lockers? #510284 10/07/04 03:33 PM
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DougH Offline
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Detroit's are available for this truck, but it will cost you more than an ARB. They are custom made by a company in Australia, shipping is money, custom work is money too.

You better off with an ARB money wise, besides I cant see the benefit of a rear Detroit over an ARB in a road driven rig any way.


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