I've been on a trail w/ Oleg and his tires performed very well. I personally liked the Dueler A/T but after that last wheeling trip and seeing the RV/XT my mind might be changing. They definately seem like they would perform much better on-road than most ATs.

Go with the 265-75s in a heavy load range (D,E) and get adjustable shocks if you want a smoother ride. Just my opinion.

Ashby

17/32"... yeap, this is shallow.



well, they ARE the snow tire. Nothing wrong in this.



RVXT have tread on the sidewalls. It really helps to dig out of deep loose ruts, I use it many times for this purpose. Also, it makes them stronger.

Large outside squared lugs are great to dig into sand or other loosy surfice, according to my experience. This is why not many manufacturers use them. The only surfice where you need outside lugs is mud. Not much mud in CA is around.



Define "aggressive". I am still not convinced.
This is really subjective area.

Regards,
Oleg

The sidewall lugs come into use in rock crawling also, for example Wedgie obstacle on Poison Spider Mesa Trail in Moab.

I would love adjustable shocks but those aren't in my budget right now.
Actually, the Dueler A/T Revo was very high up on my list also. Can't really argue too much about that tire other than its price. The difference adds up when you need to buy a set of four. I also like to be different and I definitely see more Revos on the road than the other guys.

Also, I like the side tread on the RVxt, but the Cooper has a scallopped side tread which IMO would offer up some more bite. The sidewall of the RVxt is indeed more pleasing to my eye, though. Tread depths between the two only differed by a 1/32 or so.

Anybody think the RVxt in an E load range would be too harsh? Perhaps too heavy of a tire for the 3.2 DOHC; noticeable difference in power??? Would the stiffer, heavier tire require stiffer shocks to keep them in check, perhaps the Procomp ES9000 rather than the 3000? Keep in mind that I'm not trying to make my vehicle into a 3/4 ton work truck. Is it safe to assume the taller sidewall of the 75 series would offer compliance characteristics similar to a 265/70/16 in a lower loadrange (C, D), making the E load of the 75 a little less drastic? Or is this not a smart comparison?
Hope my questions aren't too much. Thanks for bearing with me! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

I have not had many sets of tires, but have had a good bit of experience with a few brands, dunlop, goodyear and toyo. I had a set of Goodyear ATPs, and I do now, ok for street, but lousy in wet weather. My mom had them on her car and now on a liberty, horrible treadware and horrible wet weather traction. That is why I will not buy a goodyear tire. The dunlops I had wore quickly, but were awesome in wet weather and pretty good in the mud. Heres the set I had.
Now compare those to the RVXTs

In my opinion the RVs are much more agressive. And yes I have seen both these tires in person. Those lugs on the sides were not very deep on the tires I saw. I have also heard of weird treadware patterns on them as well. For snow and rain, yes these tires will be great. But for mud I would pass them up. I live up in NEPA, and have a large mix of terrain. Anything from rocks to mud to sand and pavement. Im not discounting them as a bad tire, it depends on the terrain your planning on hitting. These are just my experiences and oppinions. Getting the right tires at the right price is always a difficult job. Im sorry to have flared any tempers. But the tread on the RVXTs is not my personal preference. If your mainly looking for street, rain and snow performance as well as some sand and packed dirt, that is probably the right tire. But up here in NEPA, it would be my last choice. My mud tires that are going to be remounted were great in the snow last winter.

Dan

Dan, again, this is quite a subjective topic.
Take a look at Revo AT - not very aggressive look, you agree ? But still guys are reporting that Revos are great in mud, for an AT tire.



I do not know who told you so, but my wide 265 tires are wearing perfectly.



I still do not see any reasonable point. Look, man, you have no experience with them and you argue, in very passionate manner, how bad RVXTs are off-road. I respect your opinion, I am just tring to see what is behind your opinion and I have not succeeded to understand you, yet.

I suppose that this discussion lasted too long and deviated too far from the original question.

Oleg

Im not arguing that they are worthless offroad, they just wouldnt be my choice here where I live. Im glad they work for you. When I looked at them in the tire shop, I looked at them like they were a passenger car tire. Im not bashing the tires at all. They are probably great tires in certain terrain. I just doubt that they would be much better for me than my current tires, the MTs that I have to soon get remounted on my new rims. If I was dealing with all rainy, snowy conditions with a lot of highway miles, they would be my first choice. Im glad that they work for you and work well. I would however go with any dunlop before I ever put a brand new set of goodyears on my truck. Mainly because of previous issues I and my family have had. I hear that firestones have picked up their quality too, but my dad would shoot me if he ever saw firestones on my truck. Again, hes had tons and tons of problems with them. My top three choices would be BFG, Cooper and Dunlop. Dunlop also happens to be the most reasonably priced tire of the bunch as well. Im sorry for ruffling some feathers here. Its just that these tires though they may be great for the winter up here, but wouldnt be my first choice considering the conditions I see through the rest of the year. I've been quite surprised by how well my MTs are holding up and how well they do on the snow, rain and dry pavement. Again im sorry for pointing out my opinion and take on things. Choosing a tire is hard enough.

Dan

Dan and Oleg, both of you are right. I realize that the RVxt is fairly unpretentious when it comes to aggressiveness; I hate to say it, but I once saw these tires on a minivan! It was certainly not in a truck size, however. Irregardless, there is no arguing the proven ability of the Dunlops in a huge range of situations.

I do recall reading of a couple people having bad experiences with the RVxt from the tire dealer. It wasn't related to treadware, but some flatspotting on the tread from the factory, I believe. These appeared to be isolated incidents where angry consumers just wanted to let off some steam. I would be cautious of this, too, thanks to those people. Obviously their misfortune did not persuade me otherwise.

Anyway, I appreciate hearing the opinions, and they are just that. I did not find anyone's comments to be insulting or demeaning of anothers. Thanks for keeping it on topic! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Im going to go somewhat off topic, since these arent listed <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

But I ADORE MY BFG's!!!! These things make NO noise, at least none that I have noticed, and trust me, I would notice lol They are wearing great! Have had them for over a year and they have a looooong way to go. They look really good too Nice aggressive look, without being too aggressive. If that makes sense. lol Great in the snow and wet weather, which we get a lot of in winter. Seem to be good in mud, but with my hub being weird, I havent tried them in anything too drastic. Wish I could take a pic. Makes my trooper look good to have them on there. I got the 31x10.50x15's and I couldnt be any happier with them

Good luck in your choice! Tire choices can be tough

Virginia

here's another vote for Dueler AT's...Great tire all the way around, though, I wouldn't count on them in mud, regardless of depth. They simply don't self clean. I will run Kumho MTs during hunting season and then go back to Duelers. My .02.