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What axles are under Late CJ7 & CJ8 jeeps #517918 10/25/04 06:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2004
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HorribleHarry Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Hey Jeepers! I am doing some research & was wondering if you could help me with information. I am trying to find out what axles were commonly found under Late CJ7's & CJ8's. I was following a post on the YJ's axles recently & that got me thinking. While we're here, is there any good website discussing the major differences between various jeep models?.
Thank you for your help!
Harry

Last edited by HorribleHarry; 10/26/04 03:53 AM.

LOOKING FOR A DIESEL TROOPER OR A MONTERO SR
89 Range Rover Hunter edition 4X4
87 VW Vanagon Syncro 4X4
87 Monty, SWB, 2.6, auto 4X4 (sold)
86 Jeep FSJ 360 auto 2" lift 4X4 (sold)
87 VW Jetta 300,000 miles & counting... not 4x4
Re: Late CJ7 & CJ8 axle info needed. [Re: HorribleHarry] #517919 10/25/04 06:53 PM
Anonymous
Unregistered
have yo checked the jeep wire axle tech section??

axle tech

there is tons and tons and tons of info in there.

Re: What axles are under Late CJ7 & CJ8 jeeps [Re: HorribleHarry] #517920 10/26/04 10:35 AM
Anonymous
Unregistered
m-20 an 44 to 1986, an 30 up front. 35 junk an 30 up front
till 1995. 1996 an up 35 an 44. 87 an up depends on 6cyl.
an banger for 44 or 35.

Re: What axles are under Late CJ7 & CJ8 jeeps #517921 10/26/04 02:45 PM
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derangedcj Offline
Rock Warrior
The Cj7 and Cj8 came stock with a 30 up front and a 20 in back. Some of the 86 cj7 had a 44 rear. The 87-95 wrangler came with a 30 front and 35c rear. Same with the newer wrangler. But you can get some with the 44 rear. The rubicon is 44 front and rear. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


83 CJ-7 3 in suspension. All problems currently fixed. Just Everyone Elses Parts. JEEP
Re: What axles are under Late CJ7 & CJ8 jeeps [Re: HorribleHarry] #517922 10/27/04 03:19 AM
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HorribleHarry Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Thank you for your help! what's the word on the dana 20? I hear that the 30 & 35 should be replaced with a 44 or the like if possible.
Harry


LOOKING FOR A DIESEL TROOPER OR A MONTERO SR
89 Range Rover Hunter edition 4X4
87 VW Vanagon Syncro 4X4
87 Monty, SWB, 2.6, auto 4X4 (sold)
86 Jeep FSJ 360 auto 2" lift 4X4 (sold)
87 VW Jetta 300,000 miles & counting... not 4x4
Re: What axles are under Late CJ7 & CJ8 jeeps [Re: HorribleHarry] #517923 10/27/04 05:31 AM
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derangedcj Offline
Rock Warrior
You can think of it as a numbers game. 44= good jeep axle. 35=poor/average 30=poor average 20=poor. This is all based on wheeling requirments. For a pavement pounder the 20 will work well. But if you put any decent lift on a 20 it will show its flaws. Same with the 35. The 30 isnt great but i know alot of people that will just upgrade that rear 35...Getten a 44 up front and a 60 in back is nice also. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> But thats a major mod.


83 CJ-7 3 in suspension. All problems currently fixed. Just Everyone Elses Parts. JEEP
Re: What axles are under Late CJ7 & CJ8 jeeps [Re: derangedcj] #517924 10/27/04 07:43 AM
Anonymous
Unregistered
there you go go dogging a m-20 again i wish some one would
post a picture of a properly set up 20 trussed, destroyed
you wont because the after market wonts to make sells
most experince folks have with a 20 is it is wore out
when they get it an nothing has ever been done to it.
%99 of people dogging a 20 has never tore one up they
just pull them out because the seals are leaking an the
2 piece axles are tirds. its stronger than the 44 but
has weak tubes which can be corrected. an i know these
people dont know what there talking about because for
1 thing it aint know dana, and another you look at the
wrightings of professional jeep historians they will
tell you a properly set up 20 is as strong as the rest
besides %75 of destroyed 4x4 equipment is due to lack
of 4x4 experence not knowing how to use it. so i
bet you most of the advice on 20 is here say,not facts.
4ell i bet half of you wouldnt know 1 if you seen it.
which i guess if i were selling 44 an 60 i would create
this 20 phobia 2.i had folks tell me these buggies with
jeep grills are jeeps so 4ell what do i know....

Re: What axles are under Late CJ7 & CJ8 jeeps #517925 10/27/04 08:23 AM
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BoggerCJ7 Offline
Wheeler
Quote
there you go go dogging a m-20 again i wish some one would
post a picture of a properly set up 20 trussed, destroyed
you wont because the after market wonts to make sells
most experince folks have with a 20 is it is wore out
when they get it an nothing has ever been done to it.
%99 of people dogging a 20 has never tore one up they
just pull them out because the seals are leaking an the
2 piece axles are tirds. its stronger than the 44 but
has weak tubes which can be corrected. an i know these
people dont know what there talking about because for
1 thing it aint know dana, and another you look at the
wrightings of professional jeep historians they will
tell you a properly set up 20 is as strong as the rest
besides %75 of destroyed 4x4 equipment is due to lack
of 4x4 experence not knowing how to use it. so i
bet you most of the advice on 20 is here say,not facts.
4ell i bet half of you wouldnt know 1 if you seen it.
which i guess if i were selling 44 an 60 i would create
this 20 phobia 2.i had folks tell me these buggies with
jeep grills are jeeps so 4ell what do i know....


Though a great arguement not really relative. After spending 45 minutes to understand this message I would agree with you that the AMC 20 is a very understated axle for most Jeepers application. BUT, when you talk about swapping in 1-piece axles, trussing the housing, & welding the tubes, why even waste the money? Who cares about the Dana 44's smaller pinion gear when you could have one set-up for less than building that "BULLETPROOF NEVER SEEN A PROPERLY SET-UP AMC 20 BRAKE EVER" axle? It's just not worth it. SUPERDAWG has posted too many times with too many reasons (that I am not going to repeat) why the AMC 20 just isn't worth throwing money at.

I was T-Boned in the right rear of my CJ and that pretty much put the old AMC 20 6-feet under. Before that the housing was already bent from the 4wheeling I have done which is why my seals never SEALED! Went to a heavy duty Ford 9" for the same $$$$ a well built AMC 20 would cost. WHY? THE AMC 20 is A DEAD AXLE!!! They don't make them anymore, unlike a Dana 44, 60, 70, Ford 9, 8.8, etc.....

People who post here post here for knowledge, not criticism that they are unaware of the name of the axles used by jeep. Read the post, he is asking us WHAT KIND OF AXLES DO THE JEEPS HAVE! Newbies learn from people teaching/informaing them. There are a lot of people who have more KNOLWEDGE than both you and I, but they don't parade around trying to make newbies feel like their qustions are unwanted.

Chris


1983 CJ7 with 1.21 giga-watts and a supercharged flux-capacitor
Re: What axles are under Late CJ7 & CJ8 jeeps [Re: BoggerCJ7] #517926 10/27/04 10:40 AM
Anonymous
Unregistered
point taken an understood,but what i am getting at
is to many times these newbies are given info like
get a dana60 its the best, my point being that is
not all it is to it, straping a dump truck axle to
a stock jeep is like polishing the cracks out of a
tird, these newbies need jeep tech not $4000 axles
on there first jeep. i guess i am a jeep to close
to oem as possible kind of jeep lover. with just
enough done to make them fun while retaining there
look an stance. i just like to see true jeep lovers
keepem looking like jeeps an not buggy hybrids. an
by no means am i trust passing on some one elses
intele. telling someone to put 38 on a first jeep
is like getting them to sign there death certificate
in person. because a heavily modified jeep on the
road is deadly to someone who is not use to there
driving characteristics. an i was answering more
to the replys rather than the ?.

Re: What axles are under Late CJ7 & CJ8 jeeps #517927 10/27/04 03:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,056
valleycat Offline
Body Damage is Cool
what are we actually discussing here? i want to join because i have alot of experience with cj axles. i just don't know where to start. horrible harry, now that you have everybody's attention, what do you really want to know?

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