Interesting post....but I like your spunk. I thought "code 12" was simply FRED saying...."Hello, I'm here and I'm working but I aint got nothin' to tell ya". Maybe I got the code number wrong but the only code I get is the one that is supposed to come up first just to let you know FRED is operational and then trouble codes will follow that. But thanks for making me sit up and pay attention. I will definitely double check.....