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Radial Vs Bias ply #530950 11/28/04 05:07 AM
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J94_4runner Offline OP
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Ok, I know radials are the latest technology in tires, give the best ride bla bla bla. I'm not to educated on what exactly is a radial, and what's the difference(s) between them and a Bias Ply. Only bias ply tires i've ridden on were in a 68 Pontiac GTO (& buses). 100 miles on the interstate for a car show with my friend. Rode fine to me.... felt like a normal car. Now how much of a difference would there be between a 36" TSL bias ply & TSL radial? that's what it comes down to. also which one will last longer?


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Re: Radial Vs Bias ply [Re: J94_4runner] #530951 11/28/04 05:17 AM
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4Crawler Offline
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Radial vs. bias ply tire construction.

Off-road, bias ply is better, stronger, thicker sidewalls, ability to wrap tread around the sidewalls, less bounce/wheel hop.

On-road, radials are better, less rolling resistance, longer tread life, smoother ride.

Bias ply tires are prone to flat spotting, my old Swampers took a few miles of driving to warm up to where you could not feel the flat spots from even a short stop. In cold weather it was even worse.

Re: Radial Vs Bias ply [Re: 4Crawler] #530952 11/28/04 05:37 AM
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J94_4runner Offline OP
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Ok. now i'm up to par. Well I think i should go with Radial TSL's b/c i drive quite a bit. I'm trying to find out the weight of some INterco tires. Can't seem to get that spec anywhere. how much does a 36x12.50x15 TSL bias and TSL radial tire weigh??


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Re: Radial Vs Bias ply [Re: J94_4runner] #530953 11/29/04 12:03 AM
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kyle-22r Offline
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don't waste your time with radial TSLs. they really aren't a true radial, and they're very heavy. if you want a radial swamper, get iroks <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Radial Vs Bias ply [Re: kyle-22r] #530954 11/29/04 12:25 AM
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which would perform better in mud.... a SSR or Irok?


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Re: Radial Vs Bias ply [Re: J94_4runner] #530955 11/29/04 02:36 PM
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grandeyota Offline
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I've been impressed with what I've seen iroks do in the mud, and stay away from the radial tsl swampers. I ran a set of 36x14.50 and was not impressed at all. SSR has a tighter pattern so I'm just thinkning it wouldn't clean as well. But then again I've never seen a set that size in action.


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Re: Radial Vs Bias ply [Re: grandeyota] #530956 11/29/04 02:53 PM
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SHAD Offline
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As far as I know boggers do the best in mud. At least what I have seen
I know a guy who buryed his lifted jeep cherokee to the 1/2 point in the doors in a swamp and he got out with his 33x12.50 boggers.
The rest of us tried the same thing and we all got stuck.
We all were locked and all had mud tires too. One guy had 32x11.50 BFG MT KM's. I had 33x12.50 mud king XT's.

Last edited by SHAD; 11/29/04 02:57 PM.

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Re: Radial Vs Bias ply [Re: SHAD] #530957 11/29/04 06:45 PM
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A rather funny pic, but this is the best shot of the tires I could find... no good for road use, but nothing better for mud. The ag tires are not DOT approved. However, for a vehicle that is not used on the road, why use DOT tires when there are much better options? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

[Linked Image]

The tires were purchased from Miller Tire in Ohio. www.millertire.com $45 a tire, if I remember correctly. They have a website, but you can't order online. Y'all like the 'pine scent' package on that Heep? Just as a sidenote, those are on 15" rims. There are a lot more options as far as lug size/spacing for 16".


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Re: Radial Vs Bias ply [Re: ecowheeler] #530958 11/30/04 07:51 PM
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ACES_HI Offline
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A rather funny pic, but this is the best shot of the tires I could find... no good for road use, but nothing better for mud. The ag tires are not DOT approved. However, for a vehicle that is not used on the road, why use DOT tires when there are much better options? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

[Linked Image]

The tires were purchased from Miller Tire in Ohio. www.millertire.com $45 a tire, if I remember correctly. They have a website, but you can't order online. Y'all like the 'pine scent' package on that Heep? Just as a sidenote, those are on 15" rims. There are a lot more options as far as lug size/spacing for 16".


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