If having rear discs on my Troop means a 12 bolt, put me down for one as well. Heck even if it was a 10 bolt I'd take one, can't go peg-leg forever <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />. As for the front I plan to keep my IFS so I'd need something compatable.

so the sooner we get our money together the sooner they can see how serious we are. We need some funds to show we are serious people. Matt can you see what amount it would take to get something going or at least our foot in the door. A year is a good while. i would rather see months instead and a locker in the rear soon.

late 87-early 1997 troopers you have a 12 bolt rear and a 10 bolt front....these parts would be for you to lock it up front and rear.

mid-97+ is where we need to look at the rear 12 bolt to see where the "split" to the larger size is. i have heard a buch of different versions of what the deal is. Basically AFAIK 1998 is the truly confirmed rear with the larger ring/carrier.

cross that bridge when we ge to it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

I know you were just using it as an example, but import numbers i doubt will have a strong effect on our case. I think some things that will solidify our proposal:

A) first and foremost, an upfront showing of cash and support for their "test run" - are we really expecting powertrax to create a new line of locker out of one group buy, or to start with a test-batch for economically-devoted enthusiasts

Growth Potential:

B) this is prob proprietary & confidential info, but maybe Rancho / ARB / TJM / Superwinch / Warn / 4 wheel parts etc. have some releasable figures on their sales trends for aftermarket Isuzu-specific products (in comp to other makes) --> i bet this would spark some interest, showing their offroad growth
C) the rising value of used isuzu trucks, i.e. gaining respect, desireability and support in the 4x4 market

I dunno, this is all just stuff off the top of my head, but might help add more meat...



I hope that this is a tell-tale sign to Powertrax... if companies such as ARB can commit, & profitably too, why shouldnt theirs which would alot cheaper, and a practical (in comparison to ARB) install


HTH,
Santi

Man would I love to see this actually happen. What's the good word Matt? Have you spoken to anyone about what kind of numbers we need to have a 12 bolt produced?

Just for an updated list:

1 icu_running
2 Frisky
3 Chasespeed
4 Onebadtrooper
5 Bigpoppax2
6 Joehope (2)
7 Wareagle
8 Ducktrooper
9 CPOM
10 Randii
11 2000Trooper
12 paulevans76
13 Madcat
14 Kermitthetodd (from the Planet)

Maybe list

1 LSGA
2 LTC Don

Well, I know a couple of us would commit to 2 of them if it would get us over the top, so it looks like we are pushing 20 units right now. That is not a bad start for sure.

Matt, I know the nexer 12 bolts have a larger ring gear and carrier, but we are talking about the spider gears.....Are they compatible between them????? That would make a big difference if the guts of the carrier are the same size. I am speculating here, so it is mostly wishful thinking. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I have a 2001 Troop, which I believe has a 10-bolt rear.

I'd be in for a rear locker. Are we talking air or cable actuated?

ps
I'm in the Omaha, NE area now. Would like to meet and wheel w/anyone local or in the surrounding area.

I'm finally getting my ARB in January. No winch though. That's big $$$.

pps
Man, I need to edit my profile. I'll fix it tonight.

well ........... no dice.

different spline count 23 vs. 26

different shaft diam. 1.50" vs. 1.32"


just a different animal ( <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/oink.gif" alt="" />).......................or in this case locker

None of the Isuzus have ten bolt rears since 87. You have the newer 12 bolt.

dude you are way off the back here <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

(cretianly just busting your chops <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />....but you really have no clue what we are talking about in this thread)

the Lockright is a full time "drop-in" Locker that replaces the internals of your existing carrier. it is automatic.....i.e. non-selectable...........no cable, air, electric, yada yada

and you have a 10 bolt front.....w/ the larger 1.50" shaft 12 bolt rear....as mentioned in my last post.