I put in new rings and rod bearings last weekend and now I'm getting a real irritating lifter noise. I knjow these lifters are supposed to click somewhat normally but these are a bit exagerated. I'm thinking it has to be somewhere in the topend, but what? Anybody ever heard of the cam bearing caps going bad or am I looking at a new cam,rocker arm assembly, bearing caps? I dunno, If I adjust the gap one more time I'll need a new feeler guage because I'm wearing this one out. I'm also thinking .007 and .011 wouldn't do me any bit of good. The truck is really performing better than I could have asked for and it's real nice checking the oil and finding I can put that quart of oil back on the shelf 'cause I don't need it. I did do a search on this common Q but it seems the query leans more toward the date instead of subject <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Get new adjustment screws from dealer....maybe 30-35 bucks.

Really, no chit...it will stop the rattle.

I actually bought a new set from EB. I forgot to mention that. This is why the noise is peculiar, I'm thinkin I have some big wrong going on here....but maybe not.

i rebulit a 90 22re with new pistons, rings and bearings etc. i asked the machine shop to check the cam when they checked the head. they said the cam checked out within spec.. having done business with them before, i put it in and wore out a set of feeler gauges myself trying to get the lifters quiet, burnt the s#$t out of my hands trying to do it hot like Toyota says... after swapping rocker arm assembly off another motor, purchasing new adjuster screws like mentioned in this post, the only thing left was the cam, and that is what it was.. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" /> (thanks machine shop) i hope this helps, and i hope you find it, trust me i know how irritating this problem is..

regarding your searching problem...you need to put plus signs (+) in front of each search term. (e.g. "+22RE +valve +noise" instead of "22RE valvue noise")

they do tend to make a lot of noise...i also replaced my adjusting studs and that quieted mine quite a bit, but they still do make noise from time to time.

if i set the valve lash way too tight, they stay quiet, but having them too tight is no good, so i just live with the noise--which only gets loud once in a while.

one thing i have read about that i am thinking might be an issue is the possibility of the rocker arms "walking" off of the valve stem.

you know how the rocker arms can slide back and forth and there is a spring that is supposed to hold them in place?

assuming i am interpreting what i've read correctly, the rocker arm can, for some reason at some times, overcome the force of the spring and move around causing the typical 22RE valve noise to get louder and sound like a distinct tick coming from one source instead of the typical blend of many quieter ticks.

i've only read a little about it, so it would be cool if someone who knows more about it would chime in and help us both out. how can you tell if this is happening? how do you stop it (do you have to replace the springs)? is it a big deal?

Thanks for the help on the search thing. Mine eyeballs were starting to burn looking at the screen so long <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

The walking thing does make sense because the adjusting screws have a radius (can't remember if the valves do or not, it was almost seven days ago since Iv'e been in there you know) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" /> If the valves do have a radius because of wear, oh ya baby, I'm sure they would walk. Thank you both. Some easy things to check without pulling the head off again. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

>>>*Noises can telegraph and sound just like tappets, but you say if you snug them up tighter they stay quiet?

*Curious if a valve job was done? If so, this can relocate the valve standing length. Then the rocker arm rides in a slightly different spot.

I might mention we have run these as close as .007" intake and .010" exhaust even with a stock cam and no harm.

If the noise is in the upper assembly it might be the rocker itself taking wear. I have seen some that after a valve job they were so far out of whack the adjuster screw was walking over to the edge if the valve tip.

That makes a "come and go" type racket that is hard to spot. Roll the cam up to where the rocker arm is free, slide the arm sideways and take a look at the wear pattern on the valve tip. If it reaches the edge, there's the noise....*EB

thanks EB...i'll take a look at mine this weekend.

in my case, no valve job was done.

at a "tight" (meaning lots of drag on the feeler) .007/.010 (cold), they stay quiet. loosen them up to "normal" (a little drag) .007/.011, they *sometimes* make a louder, more distinct ticking sound.

(i've checked it out with a stethoscope and it definitely seems to be coming from the valves...seems to be loudest around cylinders 2 and 4...and a little louder on the exhaust side, but, as you said, the noises tend to telegraph, so i'm not sure.)

i was afraid to leave the exhaust valves at a tight .010, though, for fear of burning one.

if i find that the wear pattern on the valve tip does reach the edge, do i need to rebuild the whole top end?

my instinct is to just tighten 'em up a little bit and ignore the noise...is this a stupid thing to do? what possible disasters am i opening myself up to?

thanks again.

I didn't do the valves, I probably should have but I didn't. Most of the time it's a time issue, but I had the week off and to be honest with didn't think of it. This is why I mentioned the valves possibly being worn and having new EB-Adjusters and all, the walking thing makes sense. Geez, I don't know how many more times my valve cover grommets are going to take torque be fore they go south. Wuold I need to haveany head work done if I just bought some new stock valves (re-seated, etc.)?

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />I had the same ticking noise coming and going.I replaced the rocker assembly with one from EB.I'm running a crane cam,the card said set to .08 intake,.10 exhaust.I haven't had the noise since. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />