MIKEM, I don't post to cause or sake of an argument. I was really wanting to know and yes I did hear rumor, that Toyota was going to step up to the plate and build a full size truck.

To tell you the truth I really don't see why Toyota has built one before (for export to the US). The have BIG BIG trucks overseas (use to see them all the time when I was over in the middle east for 10 years).

About the Blue concept truck in the link above, everything looks good till you get the the rear of the bed. What happen, why bobbed like that???

Yes I have a 2003 Hemi Full size quad cab 1500 dodge sitting tall with 315x70x17's on it, Yeah it can be a little bit of a pain to park, not as easy as my 88 toyota 4x4 shortbed.

I sure would like to have two Toyota's (88 and a new FULL size Quad cad) in the stable instead of that dodge. The dodge has been OK, but still lacks the refinement of a "Japanese" vehicle. This is why I am looking at the Titan.

Got a neighbor that has had 3 dodges 2001, 2002, 2003, trucks and now has a Titan. He says it's a better built truck than the Dodges. I get ont he Titan forums and read pretty good things about them, there new though. Will be lookin though, I have a funny feeling that this dodge is not going to be around very long. First $23,000 takes it.