And I'm ever thankful for that fact and will never own anything but a Toyota truck.
It's your choice Joel. QC at Toyota has declined since many QC workers moved to the Lexus division. Ofcourse, if Lexus were to release a FullSized Truck...
...I humbly disagree with you. My feathers aren't rustled, I just want facts thrown out there. Lets take my 1998 Toyota T100 and put it up next to a Ford F150 4x4 Supercab. This particular Ford came with the 4.6L V-8 SOHC. My T100 was rated to have a payload of 1,960lbs whereas the F150 was rated to hold 1,520lbs. Hmmm... seems like the T100 is plenty adequate. In fact, I'd sooner overload my T100 and trust it than an F150. I overloaded my previous T with about 2500lbs of steel construction material and when I unloaded, she rose right back off the bumpstops without a problem (did I mention that I drove 500 miles with it loaded like that?). My previous boss had an F150 that he'd overloaded with quarry stone and he's never been able to get a true alignment since (don't ask me the correlation, he just indicated that was the only cause he could figure out).
One other thing... towing weight. The T100 was rated for 5,000lbs whereas the F150 was rated for only, get this, 1,700lbs. I kid you not! That's significant!!!
Without a Ford booklet in front of me...I would guess that the 1,700lbs was tongue, and not GVWR. Also, if its a supercab, shortbed, its capacity is reduced over 8' or reg cab. Besides, I'm talking HD trucks, not the 150 series.
And for payload, I had a palette of flooring (400qsqft) that weighed 1500lbs and HALF would sag not only my springs, (Alcans that are rated higher than stock) but my tires were hitting metal. Sorry, but if you are driving with payload hitting bumpstops, that is more than risky. Also, the damage to bearings and ujoints will be inevitable. Ever wonder about the cracked axle housings?
And isn't that the point anyway? Did you really buy your pick-up truck for the 0-60 time? I would've gone with a Supra if that were my goal.
Again, you are talking Pro-Toyota. The Supra is DISCONTINUED because Toyota couldn't make it cheap nor more powerful (Vette, mustang, Viper.. all competition and faster and liekly cheaper). And 0-60 is important now that entrance ramps need 65mph merge speeds (it was 55mph when I bought truck...now 65mph) Why do you think the Tundra has a V8? Why is it that Toyota advertises "We got it right this time!" with the Tundra? If that is not blatant admission of a problem, I don't know what is. Be glad you have the 1998 T100...atleast you can S/C if you want.
Toyota and Nissan haven't been eroding domestic truck share by offering the same product, they've done it by offering a more sensible product in my estimation. If you want 0-60, go ahead and get yourself a Hemi, but if you want payload a V8 Tundra is your leader. The Hemi beats on towing by a slim margin, not nearly large enough to make it the clear winner (especially since we are talking about 4x4 models and Toyota makes theirs more off-road friendly than Dodge).
Now why would I buy a product who's name means "to avoid" ?
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Besides, anyone that tows with a new diesel will tell you "I never even know I am pulling the trailer!" HEMI is just a sales gimmick about the "hemisperical" head over the piston. What was old is new again...and look at Chevy with the straight motors in the colorados...Old is new.
Uzombie, I didn't mean this post to pick on you. You just provided some fodder for my rant. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Yes, you did mean to, otherwise you wouldn't have! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />
But hey, this is Mr SuperPicky speaking and frankly, you can tell me till you are Toyota Blue in the face how much better your truck is. But as of 1992, its been a downer experience for me and Toyotas. I've owned a 4runner (my best Toyota IMHO), a LandCruiser (previous owner didn't take care of it and I regret flipping it..endover), a Corolla (tailights leaked, underpowered, built for short people), T100 (cost of ownership now negative).
Hey, I would love to sit down with a Toyota engineer and talk about the positives and negatives with a new truck design. But time is money and I'd rather spend it on something I fit in, I can stomp on it to get out of trouble, I can make $ with it, I can dump a ton in the back and it not flinch, and eventually use it to tow a tandem with loader on back. Show me a T100 pulling a (small) loader and I'll give you $2. And up a hill, and for 200 miles, and without a puff of smoke... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />
And get this, the T100 didn't turn over easily this morning. I say its a sign of whats to come...or that she didn't like my comments...cough. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" />
