Bill, do you want the measurement with the vehicle on the ground? If so, I can do it for you when the rain stops.

Sorry I can't help with where the additional length comes in.

Um, didn't you say "no mods" or something like that? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

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