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Re: Suggestions for building an off road trailer... [Re: off-roader] #552220 02/18/05 04:48 PM
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Looks good, Ray!
One thing you may want to think about-
With your woodworking skills, you could easily build the enclosure out of something like 1/2" baltic birch ply, then have it sprayed with line-x or similiar to weatherproof/toughen it! Cost vs. sheet steel should be fairly close, but you'd have better ability to trim it out the way you want. If you go that route plan on at least 1/8" clearance at moving parts, lids, etc.


-Dave D
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"But... If I kill all the golfers, they'll lock me up, and throw away the key..."
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'84&change Monty MPI Turbo, choptop, f&r lsd, swapped in AT- All the goodies!
Re: Suggestions for building an off road trailer... [Re: ForcedAir_Montero] #552221 02/19/05 12:13 AM
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Looks good, Ray!
One thing you may want to think about-
With your woodworking skills, you could easily build the enclosure out of something like 1/2" baltic birch ply, then have it sprayed with line-x or similiar to weatherproof/toughen it! Cost vs. sheet steel should be fairly close, but you'd have better ability to trim it out the way you want. If you go that route plan on at least 1/8" clearance at moving parts, lids, etc.


Why 1/8"? Frame twist issues?

I'll likely put a water tight rubber bead around the whole top mating surfaces so it stays dry even under torrential rains or during fordyce crossings! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Regarding the use of wood, yes, I was thinking of using wood for easy of fabrication and simply making a simple box using 2x12's for toughness and 1/2"-3/4" ply for the floor & lids. That would keep it simple and also make it easy to repair if necessary. Painting it with rhino liner/line-x is a good idea.

Based on my drawings I'll need ~30' (26.5' actually) of 2x4x.120" tubing and a few other pieces of steel (hitch receiver, etc.

Also, I spoke with one of the regional licensed makers of UCF torsion axles (T: 714 744 8425) and he said there are effectively only a handful of companies making torsion axles. Of those he considers UCF to be the best for wheeling for several reasons but most specifically it has removeable spindles so if you break one it can easily be replaced. Dexter & Alcor Corben are the other two major brands and their spindles are not replaceable.

He also said I was better off using a full width axle rather than a half axle because of the ease of installation and also better clearance (half axles usually require full width support tube anyway for proper alignment and with a narrow trailer like mine, I would only gain a few inches of tube free design at the cost of a more complex installation.

When you order them they're built to width as needed and it will cost me $259 for a 3200lb unit (minimum size w/ 6x5.5" lug pattern hubs). Also, I can request whatever angle I want (up to 45*) in the spindle to get the maximum clearance possible. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Weight isn't light (~150lbs) but is probably the same as a leaf sprung set up.

Also said that off road, the trailer leaf's (unless very heavy) won't handle the weight and will fatigue and fail earlier than normal.

Also, any input regarding the width of the tires? The design above is the equal of the track of my Montero but I'm not sure if it should be less than the track of the Monty or the same. Perhaps it doesn't matter so long as the trailer doesn't tip over easily. What do you guys think?


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Re: Suggestions for building an off road trailer... [Re: off-roader] #552222 02/24/05 09:25 PM
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Wow, this thread's already listed on Google!!

I went to google and did a search for...
building a 4x4 trailer

And this thread showed up on the 2nd page of hits!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Re: Suggestions for building an off road trailer... [Re: off-roader] #552223 02/25/05 04:43 PM
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Ray-
That 1/8" is for clearance of the coating itself. They are much thicker than paint, so if you mill your parts to fit tight, they wont open and close when your finished.


-Dave D
Reservoir of Useless Knowledge

"But... If I kill all the golfers, they'll lock me up, and throw away the key..."
-Bill Murray

'84&change Monty MPI Turbo, choptop, f&r lsd, swapped in AT- All the goodies!
Re: Suggestions for building an off road trailer... [Re: off-roader] #552224 02/25/05 08:08 PM
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If your basing your idea on the trailer platform 48" x 48 " shown in the picture below then it will not, I repeat, will not stand up to any hard going abuse, that even less on any off road or back road condition. I had one of these for my camping supplies behind my Civic, and I always wished, I would have had one made for me. I now use this trailer for my lawn tractor for leaves and grass clippings.

You'll be better off to buy a axle and hub assy and then have your frame work built up for you. You pay a bit more but you'll appreciate it.

"DES"

Re: Suggestions for building an off road trailer... [Re: ForcedAir_Montero] #552225 02/25/05 08:25 PM
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A great source of Trailer parts for construction is from Princess Auto. They have a number of stores across Canada and can be found at www.princessauto.com It's an awsome store and well worth the visit on line. Prices are Cdn $ but we find them reasonably priced. You may even have a store like it in your locaal.
DES

Re: Suggestions for building an off road trailer... [Re: ForcedAir_Montero] #552226 02/26/05 06:39 AM
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Ray-
That 1/8" is for clearance of the coating itself.


Damn good tip.


Sidenote: Going back out to the yards 02/26 to find a frame. I'm taking cash, a sawzall and my neighbors rottweiler. I'm coming home with a frame.

Mike

Re: Suggestions for building an off road trailer... [Re: off-roader] #552227 02/28/05 06:40 AM
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Ok this may or may not be what you want.......but I've looked at several older 10+ yrs coleman etc popup campers based on a 6' box.
They fold out to sleep 4 and with a simple SOA(with matching rear------for example D44)they will acommidate
spare parts and a similar sized spare etc.

With a welder and spare tube/channel they can have skidders/lower exo applied very easiely.
Just something to think about.
You can pickup most new screens/tent parts fairly cheap and be living in luxery for less than a new "small"trailer.

Bansil





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