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once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? #557839 01/25/05 10:54 PM
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MontyGrant Offline OP
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mechanic put everything back together on the timing belt replacement. said during test drive she had no power. took off plenum, checked compression, said not firing on two cylinders.
can this be the result of the timing belt breaking? i am running down there right now to inspect the damage.


-Grant
'98 Montero with 135k miles
Re: once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? [Re: MontyGrant] #557840 01/25/05 11:22 PM
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v6lsmonty Offline
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if it's a DOHC than it's an interferance engine which can result in bent valves. Here is a list

95 is DOHC I believe.


1989 Montero LS (sold)
1994 Cherokee Country bone stock
Re: once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? [Re: v6lsmonty] #557841 01/26/05 12:40 AM
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stony-man Offline
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Our 95, also and LS like his, has the 3.0, not the 3.5 <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

Re: once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? [Re: stony-man] #557842 01/26/05 01:59 AM
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Lloyd Swartz Offline
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Makes sense. My 93 3.0 broke and I had no damage.


1996 SR From the Area 51 Skunk Works. 37"BFG Tires, 5" lift, Rock Track 4:1 Case, Tom Woods Drive Shafts, Oasis Air, Front ARB, lifted gas tank, T-max winch and lots of stuff that cost too much.
Re: once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? [Re: Lloyd Swartz] #557843 01/26/05 02:43 AM
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FrankR Offline
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If the deck and heads have been over-milled, the 3.0L can become an interference motor fairly quickly.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? [Re: FrankR] #557844 01/26/05 03:14 AM
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pmontero Offline
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The last V6 non-interference engine on the Montero is '93. According to the Gates site, all 3.0 and 3.5 DOHC/SOHC engines from '94 on are interference.

I'm afraid you are toast.

Sorry,

Powell


'87 Montero Diesel
'98 Porsche Boxster Electric
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Re: once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? [Re: pmontero] #557845 01/26/05 03:33 AM
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FrankR Offline
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I just checked the Gates catalog - it shows the '94 SOHC 3.0L as the last non-interference motor. All '95+ and all 24V motors are interference type.

Still, it doesn't sound good for chances that a '95 isn't - as you say - toast. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />

Frank

Last edited by FrankR; 01/26/05 03:34 AM.

'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? [Re: FrankR] #557846 01/26/05 05:20 AM
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MontyGrant Offline OP
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thanks fellas. i was hoping for good news but if more than one person on this board says it is interference engine that i have then it must be.

at this point i'm gonna pay for the t-belt/h20 pump in Aspen and then limp down or tow it down to Glenwood Springs. when i saw that it was 10 hours of labor at $95 in Aspen or 10 hours of labor at $65 it was an easy choice to make, $950 vs. $650.

it kills me to think that i'm gonna put 2k dollars of engine work into a vehicle that is only worth 4k total.


-Grant
'98 Montero with 135k miles
Re: once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? [Re: MontyGrant] #557847 01/26/05 05:24 AM
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FrankR Offline
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So what did the mechanic tell you was the problem?

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: once and for all, timing belt broke. valve/cylinder damage or is the mechanic lying to me? [Re: MontyGrant] #557848 01/26/05 07:02 PM
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stony-man Offline
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it kills me to think that i'm gonna put 2k dollars of engine work into a vehicle that is only worth 4k total.


Don't look at it that way! Look at it as having a vehicle you love in great shape for only 2k! I would honestly rather have my Monty than any new vehicle made right now...of course I'd LOVE to put a bunch of money into it, but I'm just really happy with it and plan to keep it...she's one of my best friends. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

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