Okay, just looked into the archives! The alternator is the problem! I pulled the engine relay and it runs, that's right, it runs with the engine relay removed. The idiot lights get very dim, they do not go out entirely, but they get very dim, but it runs for more than a few seconds, I think it would run until the fuel pump runs the battery dead!! There is a cert tag with the new alternator that says the "L" circuit tested good, but apparently it does not work properly. There could be a short somewhere else, but I doubt it, I have checked every wire I could find associated with the charging system, and they all ohmed out good. They ordered an alternator that was only 50 amps, when my original was a 60. Do you suppose that this makes enough of a difference to keep it from running the fuel pump?! They told me the 60 was not available. I will have to take these fellows to task on this one. BAFFLING! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />