Yeah I have a '96 which has the 4" speaker holes in the doors and I managed to squeeze 6.5" Eclipse speakers in there smile

I didn't mean to say ALL pioneer speakers suck... Just the ones I have seen. They have always been from Best Buy or Wal-Mart etc... Low-end cheap stuff, you know. I think the moral here is you get what you pay for. I'm sure your good Pioneers were NOT their bargain model.

2002 Sportage 4dr 4x4 soon to undergo an Extreme Makeover!