I wish I had an IR thermometer, because it is still glowing with a different dizzy. Oddly enough, it seems to get hotter if I try to drive it easy. I drove it to work this morning, and took it pretty easy on it for the first 20 miles or so. I stopped to check the color, it was even brighter red than before, and went closer to the head! I noticed that it seemed to run a little better once I got above 3k, so I just tryed to keep her wound up. I checked it again when I got to work, and it was only dull red, and only down at the bottom near the collector. It seems odd that the collector and the exhaust are not red, only the manifold is glowing. I can't think of anything else this could be, unless I have a computer problem. I wonder if the dying alternator did something bad to the computer?? No codes or anything, I am really surprized I have not had the CE light come on, I am sure the O2 is fried! I guess the cat will be the next step. The exhaust shop that put my last muffler on was kind enough to put their flare going towards the cat, so I think I can grind off the weld, and then the cat still has bolts upstream, so I can drop it out, clean it out (with a blunt metal object) and reinstall. It will still look like I have a cat, but it will be free flow! I really hope the CE light does not come on with an O2 fault, I really don't think I will be able to get it out. As hot as this manifold is, I think the O2 is likely welded to the manifold.