Is that going to be the same on the 14 bolt aswell? How about the pinions? What is the best way to get them out?

Thanks,
Daniel

nope 14bff is a lot easier because it uses spanner locks which you can "relieve" the pressure on the carrier and then it will just lift out. After you remove the carrier caps, spin the rings with all the holes in them on each side of the carrier, then just pick up the carrier. gotta love the 14bff, its that easy.

(these spanner rings also adjust backlash and carrier preload, so if you were removing the carrier and wish to maintain the gearset, you would mark and count the revolutions of the spanners so you could return them to their orginal locations).

-Rob

You can also turn an old shop rag through the gears -- more of the 'lift' of which Rob speaks.

Regardless, put a couple layers of old carpet or heavy carboard on the floor so you don't ding the floor or the teeth when the carrier finally ejects.

Randii

Got them out with no problem. Thanks for the tips. I tide a rope around the carrier and then used the hust to jack it up. Then I tap the axle with a hammer and it pop right out. The 14 bolt is a hell of alot easier to get out. I took some pictures of the carriers.

The 14 bolt has alot of rust grime all over it. Here is what I found.

After seeing this I thought the detroit was toast to so I took the carrier apart to check it out.

I think the detroit will be just find after a good cleaning. Anways How do I take the pinoin out? Or should I even bother with takeing them out?

Later,
Daniel

What kind of primmer should I use to prime the chassie and the axles? I guess it should be some kind of self ecthing primer.

Later,
Daniel

taking the pinion out... you'll like the 14bff a lot more in this regard too. The pinion is held in a pinion housing. from the outside of the axle, undo the ~5 bolts surrounding the yoke and the pinion and housing should come right out. You can then seperate the pinion from the housing if you wish on the bench. This is done by removing the pinion nut.

The D60 on the other hand... you'll need to remove the pinion nut and yoke, then hammer the pinion out through the inside of the housing. The pinion bearing races will remain in the housing.

so you disassembled the detriot huh? humm... interesting. Those detriots ship fully assembled. They have a long bolt and washer going through the unit to hold it together since its spring loaded. You're supposed to mount it in the carrier, bolt the two carrier halves together, and then remove the bolt to release the tension inside the carrier. Detriot recommends you keep this bolt should you ever have to split the carrier again, where you're supposed to reinstalled it and keep the locker together as a whole unit.

I'd never seen the inside of one of those units before. I'm sure its rebuildable and you can put it back together, but you may be in for a headache, i'm not sure.

-Rob

Oh no!! How is it spring loaded? The springs are on the out side of the locker. Now unless it is a rond spring? Not sure. I will have to take another look at that tonight. All I did was take the to half of the carrier apart and it was just sitting there. Well the top of the carrier popped up from the pressure of the spring that goes on top and bottom of the detriot. I sure hope I didn't muck this one up.

I tried to take the pinion out of the dana 60 last night but I didn't have anything to hold the yoke with. I guess I could use a pipe wrinch? Not sure but I will take one home with me today from work and try it. The 14 bolt sure sounds alot easier all the way around. Man I wish there was a front 14 bolt now that would be nasty.

Later,
Daniel

Here is the detriot up close and apart.

Her it is as it sits in the carrier. This is very much like the same set up that I used in my fourwheeler a few years back. I think the bolt you are talking about is just to help line it all up as you install it into the carrier.
But as you can see here it doen't take that much to compress the springs.

I think I will be alright without the bolt. Just got to take alittle more time to line it all up. Oh yeah on a side note here is the steering box I think I will be useing.

That is the steering box that came with the danna 44 I got awhile back. It came out of a waggy. I am not sure but I think this is the bow that they a tapping for hydro. Anybody know anything about this box, where I could get a rebuild kit for it?
Rob, You think this will work alittle better than the stock isuzu box? I know you were saying something about the isuzu box not having anough flow or was that the pump?

Later,
Daniel

yep, pipe wrench always does the trick for me on pinions. they also sell a special tool for it, but i've never felt like spending the $$ when i've already got an assortment of pipe wrenches from my plumbing days...

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