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 Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: Smiley]
#577565
03/11/05 09:25 AM
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Joined: Apr 2003
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Body Damage is Cool
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IMHO, your locker is amplifying whatever *squirm* you have -- and unless you are actually connecting the rear tires together to equalize air pressure, I wonder if they are exactly the same, and that's assuming the tires have identical wear. This is a very good point....your tires may be different sizes.........I suggest one of two things: 1)Rotate your tires...atleast one of the rear with one of the front......see if this changes the handling. 2)measure the circumfence <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />...ugh anyways measure the outside diameter of the tires.Make a mark on the pavement and on the side of the tread block that touches the pavement. Then drive forward 1 full turn so the mark on the lug is on the pavement,make another mark on the pavement and measure between the marks........repeat for other side.Then divide that by pie.....this will give you a diameter of the tire. Compare both diameters and see if they are close to the same size tires......this could explain the rear being squirelly........... Don't measure the ht. of the tire with a tape measure because you'll get bad numbers.........measure the lenght they travel per revolution. Bansil
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Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: Bansil]
#577566
03/11/05 05:09 PM
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Is there anyone who is planning to attend the upcoming ISUZUwharrie Event that owns a Rodeo with a 5-speed, a locker, 3+3 inches of lift, Rancho 9000s, and M/T tires? ::raises hand:: OKà IÆll rephraseà How about anyone who fits the above criteria that hasnÆt beat on their Rodeo like a stolen mule? ( Sorry Mike û I couldnÆt resist! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> --- Actually, I look forward to hearing your thoughts.) _______________________________________________ Might as well pull the whole spring pack and check all the leaves for cracks. Replace the U-bolts on reassembly -- IMHO, these are best used only once. Depending on price, I might be getting a set of springs from the local junkyard today --- IÆm hoping that they donÆt think too highly of themà I canÆt afford more than a few fingersà and experience tells me that sometimes they want multiple arms and legs. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> --- We shall see. As for the U-bolts û I agree completely. IMHO, your locker is amplifying whatever *squirm* you have -- and unless you are actually connecting the rear tires together to equalize air pressure, I wonder if they are exactly the same, and that's assuming the tires have identical wear. Have you tried rotating tires to see if there's a different. Wellà Tread wear shouldnÆt be a factor, since I still havenÆt worn all of the manufacturing nubs off yet. --- And rotation seems unnecessary as well, given that they barely have 1000-miles on them. But I'll still keep this in mind - I'm not going to rule anything out as a possibility. I don't understand why changing the shackle changed the handling... dunno. Try repeating it to see if you can recreate the perceived change. I donÆt really understand it eitherà but it rode significantly better that way, nonetheless. Assuming that a buddy of mine is home today, I will be tightening those shackle bolts in a little while, before heading over to the junkyard. --- Hopefully IÆll have more to report about the handling later this evening (and maybe some good news about finding a set of springs too). _______________________________________________ (everything that Doug said) If the problem persists after replacing the springs (assuming that I can get some), IÆll look into the tire measurements very closelyà You never know, right? Gotta run - Thanks again everyone! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Six Isuzus, so far... still have three of them.
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Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: Smiley]
#577567
03/11/05 05:56 PM
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Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,529
Roll Me Over
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Didn't you get a brand new set of custom made grade 8 U-bolts made at Fleetpride? Aren't those what's holding your axle on right now??
Joe
A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
98 Passport 33's, Supercharged, Calmini Bumper, rockbars, diff drops, Teralows, 4.77's, Aussie and ARB lockers, Safari snorkel, Optima red top.
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Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: Bigpoppax2]
#577568
03/14/05 06:58 PM
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OK Folksà HereÆs the Updated Info: Shortly after my last report, I headed over to PaulÆs æLittle Shack of MiraclesÆ and tightened-up the shackle bolts on both sides. --- I noticed an immediate improvement in the directional stabilityà However, as one would expect, the overall ride quality absolutely stunk. Yesterday evening, while over at JoeÆs, I loosened them back again and pumped-up the old Ranchos in an attempt to compensate for the sloppy handling. --- This seems to be my best option until I can afford to replace the spring packs (assuming thatÆs the source of the problem). --- Stiffer shocks really isnÆt a long-term solution, by any means, but itÆll have to do for now. What itÆs NOT:After a close inspection of all of the related components, here are my impressionsà It isnÆt the U-Bolts û at least not as far as I can tellà All of the bolts are synched-up nice and tight, and there doesnÆt appear to be any slack anywhere. It isnÆt the Center Pins û again, at least not as far as I can tellà They seem to be tight and aligned properly, exactly as they should be. It isnÆt the Shock Mounts or Shock Bushingsà I checked all four corners, and everything was A-OK. Any further investigations were thwarted by the onset of some rapidly dropping temperatures and a sudden downpour. --- Believe me; thereÆs nothing quite like having your legs sticking out from under your vehicle, when out of nowhere, a large stream of near-freezing runoff makes its way along the surface of your vehicle, and pours straight down onto your unsuspecting procreation zone! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> --- Due to the sudden and completely startling appearance of this dreadfully cold water, I very nearly bashed my head against the axle! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> Once again û My sincere thanks to all! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Stay tuned for future reports, as funding (and weather <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> ) permit. Cheers! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> Smiley
Six Isuzus, so far... still have three of them.
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Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: Smiley]
#577569
03/14/05 07:30 PM
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Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,702
Roll Me Over
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Believe me; thereÆs nothing quite like having your legs sticking out from under your vehicle, when out of nowhere, a large stream of near-freezing runoff makes its way along the surface of your vehicle, and pours straight down onto your unsuspecting procreation zone! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> --- Due to the sudden and completely startling appearance of this dreadfully cold water, I very nearly bashed my head against the axle! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> ROTFLMAO! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Beware the ice water of March! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Steve Carlson - 95 Trooper LS expo rig
Serenity now!
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Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: BigSwede]
#577570
03/14/05 07:48 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,074
Body Damage is Cool
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How about anyone who fits the above criteria that hasnÆt beat on their Rodeo like a stolen mule?
(Sorry Mike û I couldnÆt resist! --- Actually, I look forward to hearing your thoughts.)
Hey! I resemble that remark! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Actually I was thinking that if you drive my rodeo at uwharrie, you would realize that your rodeo actually handles really well <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />
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Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: Smiley]
#577571
03/14/05 08:05 PM
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Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 9,030
4x4Wire.com Managing Editor Emeritus
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...unsuspecting procreation zone! This begs the question whether there can be such thing as a 'suspecting procreation zone.' ::crickets::I can fathom a 'suspect zone' but dunno about assuming actual consciousness... ::crickets::Still not funny? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> Here's a picture of something somewhat Isuzu: http://home.4x4wire.com/randii/motor/P2070054.JPG::carefully rescuing a woefull hijack::Randii (hijack countermeasures deployed)
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Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: randii]
#577572
03/14/05 08:59 PM
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Actually I was thinking that if you drive my rodeo at uwharrie, you would realize that your rodeo actually handles really well <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> You said ità I didnÆt! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> [/quote] ...unsuspecting procreation zone! This begs the question whether there can be such thing as a 'suspecting procreation zone.' ::crickets::I can fathom a 'suspect zone' but dunno about assuming actual consciousness...::crickets::Still not funny? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> IÆm sorry, but I just canÆt let this one get past without saying somethingà Randy û what the heck do you mean you ædonÆt know about assuming actual consciousnessÆ ??? --- Are you saying that you canÆt recall a single instance in your entire life where your æProcreation ZoneÆ was the one doing all of the thinking for you? Thank you, thank youà IÆll be here all week --- Try the veal! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Oh yeahà Isuzu! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Six Isuzus, so far... still have three of them.
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Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: Smiley]
#577573
03/14/05 09:08 PM
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Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 9,030
4x4Wire.com Managing Editor Emeritus
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Are you saying that you canÆt recall a single instance in your entire life where your æProcreation ZoneÆ was the one doing all of the thinking for you? I wondered if anyone would take that bait! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> Dunno if we should talk about my 'procreation zone' any further in your 'bad handling issues' thread. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" /> Randii (straying even further from topic)
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Re: >>> Bad Handling Issues (Revisited)
[Re: randii]
#577574
03/14/05 09:35 PM
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Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 5,911
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Agreed!(And BTW, we'll take that as an answer by omission! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> ) [ôHelmsman, give us an On-Topic course correction!ö] While looking around under there this weekend, I did discover the source of at least one of my noisesà Apparently, when my leaf springs open-up during articulation, the first leaf below the main spring is catching an edge on the forward spring hangerà When everything levels out again, the leaf goes back into positionà with a big ôTHUD!ö [ôCourse laid-in, and nothing to report but smooth seas ahead, CaptÆnö] Cheers! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> Smiley
Six Isuzus, so far... still have three of them.
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