Actually Fred I have taken it "actully 4wheeling" i used to live in virginia and we used to go out to the shandoah mtns almost every weekend. and your comment about them rolling not a problem, look in the MOST USED FORUM on here the mitsu/dodge forum about roll-overs in these. Its not an issue. also not to be rude but most jeep drivers i have encountered on the trails seem to be really cocky about their jeeps when they see my Raider and what it can climb. And i am not bias towards mitsus, i do like them but i would take a Rubicon, i couldnt justify spending 28,000 on one. But thats just my opinion.