So I got the frame and the tub off the 91 sitting in my garage on some junk axles. I decided I'm going to use the frame and the tub and throw some different axles under it set up with spring over. My CJ axles are too narrow. Well I've been looking around and I found a set of what appear to be 44's today off of a 1964 Jeep truck looking thing I think its a J200 or something at a junkyard. They measure 67 1/2 inches from the inside of the rotor to the other. Has a passenger side drop like I want and an open knuckle. Will these work or not? I also found a set off of a 73' scout II but the front is completely dismantled...he has all the parts I guess but its in pieces. But he wants a little more than I would like to pay. Either that or I'm not sure what thier worth. What would be a good going rate for either of these sets. Or whatever one will work.

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I would pass on both sets until you find out exactly what they are. Any axle as old as the Jeep set is going to have low spline counts. More splines=strength.

Looking at the width though I'd highly suspect they were swapped in from a Chevy. No Jeep axle was ever that wide and no Jeep in '64 had disc brakes. If you can find the BOM number on the axle tube just to the right of where it enters the center section I can look it up for you (if it's not too old).

The easiest swap under that YJ frame is going to be a Wagoneer axle from '74-79 if you want passenger drop front diff. Find the rear axle from any '80-91 Wagoneer for a centered rear diff. The width will match and so will the bolt pattern for the wheels.

Don't go throwing money at turds cause they look like they will work.

I've never paid more than $100 for any complete axle (unless we start talking front Dana 60s).

you've got a 44 rear at 60" wms to wms right? why not use it? find a wagoneer front 44(pre '80). that and scout are pretty much your options if you keep the rear. and the scout front isn't much of an option. iirc, you were concerned about keeping it street legal. you will have a hard time covering the tires with truck axles(full width) under there. i guess you could always narrow a chevy 44 front but that's a lot of work.

it should only cost a couple hundred dollars to convert it to 5 on 5.5 with used (junkyard)parts.

The rear axle that I have is a Dana 44 but it only measures 53 inches from backing plate to backing plate. It would and could work for the back but I am looking for a set with the same gear ratio's so that I can hold off on an expensive gear job. I also am looking at a 1978 wagoneer for 500 bones...but space in san Francisco is pretty limited and I'm not sure if I would be able to donate it to a charity with no axles. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

AAA would probably tow it for me to a junkyard to sell it huh? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Man I wish I still lived back home I could just park it out in my field...right next to my dads old school bus <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />

that waggy sounds like your best option. can't you find a shop to strip it at? like a buddy or something? then just get it hulk hauled away. use the 6 lug axles and buy new rims? if you get it, i'll buy the exhaust manifolds and front leaf springs from you.

if you do get it, the spindles will be wrong for the 5 on 5.5 conversion using ford f150 parts so you would need to buy spindles too. probably cheaper to get new rims and stay 6 lug. the axleshafts should interchange between your two 44 rears but i'm not sure. CSP?

53" between the backing plates = 59-60" between the wheel mounting surfaces.

Maybe. It depends on if one is offset (guessing the '78 is) and the other isn't. A tape measure would tell. The other factor may be the brakes. The five lug drums would also have to be used and they may be a different width or diameter than the brakes on the six lug axle. Might be the same, but it's something worth looking into.

i guess all bets are off if one is a q-trac.

Ok, today I found a set off of a 77' waggy for $475. This is the best price I have found for around here so far. The other sets I found for a waggy have been for around 1000 bucks. And even the torn apart scout axles the guy wanted 600. So to me this sounds pretty reasonable, please tell me if I'm wrong because I'm going to look at them tommorow. Granted I have to go pull them off but thats ok with me.

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I guess it's really a demand/market thing down in CA, but I think the $475 is a little steep. Take a cheap ad out in the nickel ads and see what you can get. It may be splitting hairs in the end, and the convenience might be worth the price, but I've never spent over $250 for a set of Wag axles, and I've bought three sets. That is Portland though. Just my $.02

The problem is even if I go to a pick and pull they want like 60 bucks for a BARE axle. Then they charge you for everything else that goes on the axle even the knuckles. I added it up and it came to around 275 an axle. If this set is complete I'm going to jump on it.