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Re: 'Zu Zoo VIII Pictures
[Re: pplotz]
#605993
06/13/05 09:29 PM
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4x4Wire.com Managing Editor Emeritus
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Great pics, Rob... it already feels like a year since I've been there. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> You brought back some good memories! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> It always amazes me how poorly the camera can capture the dimension of these things... stuff like Dan sideways on Double Whammy just doesn't appear all that difficult in two dimensions, but DANG, I have been puckered when I've been on it! ![[Linked Image]](http://www.isuzu4x.com/albums/album95/Dan_131.jpg) Speaking of DW, who made it up? Rob, I reckon your wheelbase and build should have helped you scoot right up, right? The Helldorado pix were especially fun -- wish I coulda been there to see in person, but I had too much to juggle that day... Besides, I won't even drive that canyon <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" /> until I figure out a way to fold down the windshield or come up with some A-pillar skid-plating... that undercut wall on the left and slick slop on the right just sucks you in -- as I noted from the bodywork on the trucks in camp. A few years back, I saw a fella in an Early Bronco run that clean, with a hard top(!) -- but he was a local, and ran that whole dang canyon top-to-bottom in about 30 minutes, with another vehicle. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" /> The 'Bronco Line' was to back out darn near into the overhang and drop the front right tire in the crack to the right of where the guy is standing in this pic: ![[Linked Image]](http://www.isuzu4x.com/albums/album96/Fernando_209.jpg) ...and use that to pivot/push the front end uphill and to the right. He didn't use the right wheel for motivation, really, it was more of an anchor to prevent the front from getting sucked down and to the left, where gravity wants to take it. Dunno if you could take that line with the front pumpkin on the passenger side! Actually, of more interest (less guaranteed) to me was the entry rock -- what line did Fernando take on that? Looks like you started more to the right, Rob, and tried a few different lines... Looking at the fuel costs slide was sobering, tho! Good thing you were heading east, towards cheaper gas... if you'd come out west, the expense might have been damn near the same, with half the miles. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> How many more days until IX? Randii
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Re: 'Zu Zoo VIII Pictures
[Re: randii]
#605994
06/13/05 10:15 PM
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Joined: Jun 2005
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Need a Spot
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Here is a couple: If you want a bunch of pictures from various cameras in MOAB, please see this thread: Clicky
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2001 white trooper
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Re: 'Zu Zoo VIII Pictures
[Re: randii]
#605995
06/13/05 11:37 PM
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Joined: Sep 2000
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Roll Me Over
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It always amazes me how poorly the camera can capture the dimension of these things... stuff like Dan sideways on Double Whammy
yea, thats a bad obstacle for pictures. I was noticing as i was going through them, that none of them do any justice for that tough little climb. Speaking of DW, who made it up? Rob, I reckon your wheelbase and build should have helped you scoot right up, right? yea, I made it up the left line with not too difficuly. I had first attempted the far right line Dallas did, but it just wasn't happening. Actually, of more interest (less guaranteed) to me was the entry rock -- what line did Fernando take on that? Looks like you started more to the right, Rob, and tried a few different lines... Fernando took what Dallas referred to as the cheater line <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />, but its a straight drop in off to the left of where i was at the lines you up perfectly for the manevor around the next rock. Dallas and I opted for the straight in approach which was a pretty nasty dug out boulder. Looking at the fuel costs slide was sobering, tho! Good thing you were heading east, towards cheaper gas... if you'd come out west, the expense might have been damn near the same, with half the miles. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> yea, as expensive as it was, it really wasn't that bad considering that was really the only expense for a weeks worth of vacation not to mention priceless memories. -Rob
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Re: 'Zu Zoo VIII Pictures
[Re: RobG]
#605996
06/14/05 12:23 AM
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Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 9,030
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Fernando took what Dallas referred to as the cheater line <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />, but its a straight drop in off to the left of where i was at the lines you up perfectly for the manevor around the next rock. Dallas and I opted for the straight in approach which was a pretty nasty dug out boulder. Yeah, I see a lot of rigs drop in on the left, but to me, that first boulder is the first obstacle, and it is a bugger, for sure. The best line I see fo my Amigo is to run the right tire right up and off it, then try to claw forward and skid the rocker/frame over it while dangling a front right and left rear wheels in the air, with a front left virtually unweighted, and the right rear doing all the pushing. Ugh. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> I've seen CJ-7 and similar wheelbases pull it off, but that rock would be all over my front driveshaft if I dropped in the wrong place. Randii
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Re: 'Zu Zoo VIII Pictures
[Re: randii]
#605997
06/14/05 01:03 AM
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Joined: Jan 2005
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Body Damage is Cool
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For me to get there , sure its a long drive , but it would cost a lot less than me driving anywehre in canada.Our gas prices are totaly outrageous now , and don't look like they are going to go back down at all.Of course its all taxes in the price <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> Right now , for the cheap stuff , its just under a buck a litre , so it works out to something like 4.60 a gallon , and I hear people complaining about 2.00 a gallon? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> Thats like a dream to me , I haven't seen prices that low in 20 years.
So , for the cost of 2.00 a gallon , I think I would drive acorss the US to get to Moab instead of across canada and then down.Would save me hundreds in the long run , and pay for itself.I do definately want to get there one year. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.2 with mods.Hughes Air gap intake , 52MM TB , ford injectors, 2 3/4" lift, Doug Thorley headers , HID headlights with LED , HID fog lights , glow gauges , a few others
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Re: 'ZuZoo VIII Pictures
[Re: MichaelW]
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06/14/05 01:49 AM
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Joined: May 2002
Posts: 671
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Plus I had to make a little side trip after leaving Moab to make sure my 4th of July is as much of a blast as Moab was.... ![[Linked Image]](http://www.mjw.com/images/fireworks-01.jpg) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> Not to hijack the thread, but <best Crocodile Dundee Aussie accent> "'At's naught a knoyfe, THIS is a knoyfe"Or, rather a 4th of July! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/Pyro4117/lP7040004copy.jpg) Jay
1991 Trooper - DEAD! 2.8 V6, 5 spd, 4WD, HD clutch, 2.25" exhaust, EPROM Chip, KC/Hella, Aisin hubs, Rancho 9000X's, Panasonic/Infinity/Alpine My Pics
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Re: 'ZuZoo VIII Pictures
[Re: Pyro4117]
#605999
06/14/05 04:49 PM
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Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 906
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wow, I thought that was a decent fireworks supply....
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Re: 'ZuZoo VIII Pictures
[Re: pplotz]
#606000
06/14/05 05:40 PM
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Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,342
Body Damage is Cool
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Great pics guys & gals. What's a "J"? Is it anything like a Jeep??
David ?'90 Trooper?2.6L?Auto?DELTA Cam?AMC Head?"DN" Lift?SlakAzz Sliderzz ?TrXus M/T's?Black Rockcrawlers?Lockers by MIG & ARB?ProComp ES9000's ? Pics and junk...Thx Tad!!
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Re: 'ZuZoo VIII Pictures
[Re: ShowMeDave]
#606001
06/14/05 06:10 PM
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Joined: Dec 2001
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Roll Me Over
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Great pics guys & gals. What's a "J"? Is it anything like a Jeep?? I did a page search on "J" and my best guess is you mean "what's a CJ-7." If so, yes, a wrangler varient. Here they are reproducted to original paint/decals http://www.austinjeeps.com/
[color:"white"]? 04 Rodeo DI ?[/color] 75k mi, body damage on the 1st weekend I got it.
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Re: 'ZuZoo VIII Pictures
[Re: Wayne]
#606002
06/14/05 06:39 PM
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Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,342
Body Damage is Cool
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It was a joke Wayne. In reply to rockcrawler and ridgeblazer's posts above. Jeeps are nothing to be ashamed off or scared of. Dunno why it's so hard for people to say "Jeep".
David ?'90 Trooper?2.6L?Auto?DELTA Cam?AMC Head?"DN" Lift?SlakAzz Sliderzz ?TrXus M/T's?Black Rockcrawlers?Lockers by MIG & ARB?ProComp ES9000's ? Pics and junk...Thx Tad!!
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