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 Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
#607100
05/26/05 01:22 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
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Has anyone had any experience replacing the seals in the rear axle tube hub end. The FSM says to use a SST to remove the axle from the backing plate, is there another way without buying this SST? Is there anything else I should replace while I'm in here?
Thanks
89 yota pickup
22RE 261C cam
Tanny / engine rebuilt after 256K
Head machined to RV street spec(EB's)
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 Re: Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
[Re: yota89]
#607101
05/26/05 01:25 AM
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Click on the Yota section link above and head to the tech and maintenance articles. High tech SST is there. Repack your bearings.
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Re: Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
[Re: kewlynx]
#607102
05/26/05 03:58 AM
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Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 402
Mudrunner
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You can get a seal remover from parts houses, works
much better than screw drivers. Its like a miniature
crow-bar with 2 'hooks' on the end
Last edited by whitetoy; 05/26/05 03:59 AM.
Rick
1984 4Runner
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Re: Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
[Re: yota89]
#607103
05/26/05 04:12 AM
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Joined: Apr 2000
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There are two seals on the rear axle assembly (really three if you count the big O-ring. Which one are you asking about. The one in the housing or the one on the axle? If it is the one on the axle here is a write up about changing it and how to get to it. http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/rear_axle/wheel_bearing/ Most people do not even know that there is a way to repack the "sealed" rear axle bearing!!!!!
Last edited by OOP'S; 05/26/05 04:14 AM.
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Re: Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
[Re: OOP'S]
#607104
05/26/05 06:24 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
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We'll I was planning on replacing all the seals while I had it apart, and possibly the bearing if I could find out how to check it to see if its bad or not.
Thanks
89 yota pickup
22RE 261C cam
Tanny / engine rebuilt after 256K
Head machined to RV street spec(EB's)
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Re: Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
[Re: yota89]
#607105
05/26/05 06:39 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,986
Toyota Section Staffer
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I replaced my rear bearings at about 160K miles. It was not urgently required and gear oil was staying where it should, but the option of having one grenade on a long trip was unappealing, so I chose to do it on my timeline. Seals too of course. The tech section has all your answers.
When I removed the bearings, they did have some barely noticeable play compared to new, but were not close to failure from what I could determine. But my confidence level is that much higher now.
-Bill
'87 4Runner w/ '96 5VZ-FE, 'Red Chili II'
'97 Taco XtraCab 3RZ-FE, 'BlackBean'
TLCA # 13257, Rising Sun 4x4 Club Land Use Coordinator
"He who stops being better stops being good." -Oliver Cromwell
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Re: Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
[Re: yota89]
#607106
05/26/05 08:24 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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That was the first repair I did to my 89 4runner. Follow that maintanence link from OOP'S above- tells you exactly what to do. I did the Conan Overhead Slam technique to remove the backing plate- Quick and easy! BUT if I had to do it again and had more money than time I would take the assembly to a shop with a press to get bearings and retainer back in place. That was a PIA. That said it can be done quickly and that write-up is great- just follow the steps (and don't try to use black iron sewer pipe to hammer your bearings back in- it'll make a mess <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />)
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Re: Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
[Re: Mavranos]
#607107
05/26/05 10:13 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
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and don't try to use black iron sewer pipe to hammer your bearings back in- it'll make a mess <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />) That is funny!!!!!!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Somehow I let erik talk me into this while he swung the hammer!!!! ![[Linked Image]](http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/rear_axle/wheel_bearing/hammer.jpg)
Last edited by OOP'S; 05/26/05 10:17 PM.
David Fritzsche
1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods
04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig
Roseville, CA
"Serenity through Sobriety"
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Re: Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
[Re: OOP'S]
#607108
05/26/05 10:21 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
I used a press. Took all 12 tons, and got reeeeeeeeeal exciting when it finally let go with a
BANG
To put it all back together I made SSTs out of an old 4Runner axle I had around for a project that never happened. Cut it up, welded little supports as needed, mighty handy to have around.
Makes good legal tender in trade for pizza for local guys wanting to save some trouble too!
-Bill
'87 4Runner w/ '96 5VZ-FE, 'Red Chili II'
'97 Taco XtraCab 3RZ-FE, 'BlackBean'
TLCA # 13257, Rising Sun 4x4 Club Land Use Coordinator
"He who stops being better stops being good." -Oliver Cromwell
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Re: Replacing rear axle shaft seal?
[Re: Red_Chili]
#607109
05/26/05 11:50 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
I used a press. Took all 12 tons, and got reeeeeeeeeal exciting when it finally let go with a
BANG
To put it all back together I made SSTs out of an old 4Runner axle I had around for a project that never happened. Cut it up, welded little supports as needed, mighty handy to have around.
Makes good legal tender in trade for pizza for local guys wanting to save some trouble too! I have a 20 ton press, and the SST to do this right, it can be seen in one of the pictures in the write up. But Erik wanted to do it the "shadetree" way to show folks you do not need a press. I was just kidding about Erik and the hammer, I was using the long tube like a slide hammer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
David Fritzsche
1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods
04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig
Roseville, CA
"Serenity through Sobriety"
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