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Not turning over
#608573
05/30/05 06:05 PM
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Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 62
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Hi guys. You saved my butt once before with a cold shifting problem and I'm hoping someone can get me started in the right direction. I have a '91 6 cylinder that will not turn over today. Running fine yesterday. Engine cranks and has power. Sprayed out carb. Seemed like it tried to start. Read some archives and cleaned out inhibitor switch. No go. Any further advice?
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Re: Not turning over
[Re: RSMonty]
#608574
05/30/05 06:24 PM
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Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,169
Roll Me Over
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Hi,
Give me a few more details.
1. Does the starter engage but the engine never fires?
2. If not, do you hear a click when you turn the ignition over?
3. When you say you sprayed the carb. do you mean you took off the intake hose and cleaned out the throttle body? If so, what did you use to clean it out and did you do this before or after it wouldn't start?
It's raining cats and dogs here. Is it raining heavily where you are? This could be related.
Powell
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Re: Not turning over
[Re: pmontero]
#608575
05/30/05 06:48 PM
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Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 9,781
Mitsubishi Forum Moderator
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If the starter turns the engine over then you can rule out the ignition switch or the inhibitor switch.
We know the engine isn't seized up since it spins.
Then next thing to do is check for spark timing and fuel. These engines will run even when half dead. Unless your not getting any spark or any fuel I am surprised it isn't at least firing up then sputtering and dieing.
I would check for spark, check under the timing belt access covers to make sure the belt was still there, and would also be checking for fuel.
DougH 1997 SR - Current Lawn Ornament 1995 SR - RIP 1993 RS - RIP
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Re: Not turning over
[Re: RSMonty]
#608576
05/30/05 07:27 PM
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Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 62
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Took off intake hose and sprayed carburator with carb cleaner. Made no difference. Engine sounds like it is going to turn over, but doesn't. Will do the checks for timing belt and spark. Good weather here, not raining. Suspecting a fuel related issue. (Yes, it has gas!) I'm slow, but not that slow. Ha..ha.. Back under the hood I go...
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Re: Not turning over
[Re: RSMonty]
#608577
05/30/05 10:00 PM
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Joined: May 2005
Posts: 801
Rock Warrior
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HMM Im not sure what the carb cleaner into the TB is going to do to it.I had this problem on my V6 it was a timing belt.Take the cover off as your looking at the engine take the right side off and check for slack.That will rule out the belt.Then you can start lookin at you ignition system.
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Re: Not turning over
[Re: allsierra123]
#608578
05/30/05 10:39 PM
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Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 9,781
Mitsubishi Forum Moderator
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HMM Im not sure what the carb cleaner into the TB is going to do to it. Nothing that would cause a no start. Unless he left a rag stuck in the throttle body. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> The real danger is the carb cleaner damages the internal gaskets and eventually coolant from the preheat in the tb leaks into the intake.
DougH 1997 SR - Current Lawn Ornament 1995 SR - RIP 1993 RS - RIP
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Re: Not turning over
[Re: RSMonty]
#608579
05/31/05 03:43 AM
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Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 62
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Didn't know carb cleaner was so bad. Won't use it anymore. Had the problem before I sprayed it, so no rag to blame. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I did wonder if chipmunks or squirrels were causing mischief though. The little buggers love leaving acorns under the hood. Didn't have a chance to check the timing belt and will be out of town for a few days. I'm sure I'll be writing again soon though. Thanks.
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Re: Not turning over
[Re: RSMonty]
#608580
05/31/05 01:01 PM
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Joined: May 2000
Posts: 1,956
Body Damage is Cool
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Took off intake hose and sprayed carburator with carb cleaner. Made no difference. Just how much carb cleaner did you spray??? You do know that this stuff isn't like gas or starting fluid, and doesn't burn the same, right? If you sprayed a lot of cleaner, it could just be fouling the gas enough that it won't fire. And until all the cleaner is gone, it may not fire.
Two MRI's and a CAT scan....it's confirmed. I'm just not right in the head.
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Re: Not turning over
[Re: RSMonty]
#608581
06/01/05 04:48 AM
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Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,169
Roll Me Over
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I think its either the fuel pump/relay....or the timing belt is broken. You can't tell- it could be completely torn in two and you wouldn't know unless you take that cover off.
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Re: Not turning over
[Re: RSMonty]
#608582
06/04/05 09:23 PM
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Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 62
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Back again. Thanks for the advice so far. Here's where I am so far... Timing belt seems fine. Checked for fuel pump noise at tank and heard it when key turned. No sparks when checked. Noticed a small noise coming from engine immediately after removing key from ignition after trying to start. I never noticed this noise before and it happens after I turn key, stop, then remove key. Is this a normal sound that I never paid attention to? Another question I had was whether Montero's would have an engine cutoff safety switch that some cars have?
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