good call, doesn't the AZ BLM offer someing

The ARB I am having installed this weekend will have an air compressor, but for others this is definetly something that needs to be taken.

yep, I was thinking that the tow strap would work as a tree saver. Some chain is a good idea.

One thing we all over looked was a fire extinguisher.

CePetrak,

Your list looks pretty good, and I want to add that I carry at least that amount of gear on my trail rides, too; but I do reduce the load if I base-camp. The important thing is to not to go alone, if possible. At least travel with one other rig.
I find too many times, however, I don't know I'll be able to go wheeling until late Friday afternoon and have no one to hook-up with for a weekend of wheeling. I just load up my gear, my Lab, and stop by the grocery store on the way to the mountains.
Two things I found essential and I would add to your list are fuses and Haynes repair manual. I'm not a mechanic, but I can read how to do stuff. There has only been two occassions where I didn't have someone around with more mechanical knowledge to fix a problem; and the manual made the repairs easy. An assortment of maxi and mini fuses won't take up much room in your boonie box. I still owe a stranger from the Springs a 50 Amp maxi fuse who helped trouble shoot and provided the necessary fuse to get me home that day.

In regard to BigJim, you have to remember that BJ doesn't travel beyond walking distance from his garage! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

YES!

Jumper cables! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Your list is ok, but too much and missguided, measuring how much weight you add to your rig vs how much extra weight does it take for that extra weight to cause the problems you needed the extra parts and tools for in the first place?
I'll add comments $$ within your list.

TOOLS
pliers
needle nose pliers
channel locks
vise-grips
$$two pair, one needle nose, of vise grips will do more than all the channel locks and pliers combined to get you home$$
crescent wrench(s)
$$one 10"$$
full socket set (extensions, universal) $$wrong, why are you planning on fixing everyones rig? Carry sockets that fit bolts on your rig and for that matter only sockets that fit failure prone areas, you don't need sockets to rebuild your engine$$
torx set
$$only if you have torx fasteners, hey, why not replace those junk bolts with common ones before your trip?$$
screwdriver set
full wrench set
wire cutters
hammer
c-clamps
$$are you fabbing a folding welding table to bring along too?$$
work light (12v)
utility knife
knife (3-4 in)

RECOVERY
tow strap
high lift jack
D-rings
come-a-long
extra high strength cable
tire repare/patch kit
chain
$$overkill, a couple of clevis, a tree strap, one tow strap,
a tire plug kit, WARN 8k winch, snatch block, if you don't have proper jack points on your rig leave the high lift at home. a winch and some rocks piled will do more than any come along and jack together.$$
$$ personaly I carry a modified scissor jack, I weld a 3/8 socket to the end of the screw portion making it into a press, spreader and jack with a simple ratchet, I have not had the high lift on my rig in years$$
WEATHER
ponchos
tarp
sunscreen
insect repeller
blanket

MISC
bailling wire/cable
plumber strap
duct tape
electrical tape
auto trans fluid
steering fluid
oil
brake fluid
first aid kit
hose clamps
nuts & bolts (diff sizes and lengths)
2 gal water
gasket sealer/maker
Dana 35 axle shafts???
$$Loose the d35$$
matches
funnel
u-joints - axle
u-joints - drive shaft
tie rods
serpentine belt
fire extinguisher
oil absorbant
fuses


I did not comment on every point, rather, I tried to show how consolidation will do more than a whole 4WP warehouse inside your rig.

After a while you will realize how much junk you never use or have never even seen used for trail repairs and will start lightening up your rig for performance.

Using an ARB compressor to air tires is a huge misatake, once or twice in an emergency, fine, but for every trail ride to air up? NEVER!!! If you were sold on doing that, throw it thru their window when it dies (as it will).
ARB compressors will operate your ARBs for 5-10 years without fail if you never use it to do anything else.

Learn to know how low you can go (tire pressure)for best trail ride and ability to still drive home or back to camp on that pressure. Some tires will drive better on the highway at 8-10 PSI others need 10-20 to drive correctly.
Doing this will save your ARB compressor and keep your rig lighter.
Most rigs, if kept light enough never need 35 psi for daily street driving, 20-26 is plenty.

Trail savy comes with time and lots of trail running, everyone could use more, I'm no exception. I can't wait to wheel my XJ project and start learning what I need and don't. I don't plan on rebuilding the engine, tranny or t case on the trail so tools for that stay at home.

For instance, learn how to straighten a bent tie rod rather than carrying a spare.
I was out at the CORE grand opening and watched 3 guys almost kill a forth by trying to straighten a bent tie rod, with the rod off the rig. I've always done it on the rig with two winches, sometimes a high lift depending on which way it is bent. If the rod is bent back, have another rig winch it forward, sometimes you need to stabilize the rod with your own winch. If it is bent up, drive over your (or a borrowed) high lift) a downed tree or log can work too, and run a winch line under the jack/log up to the tie rod and winch it down. Your vise grips on either side of the point where you hook the winch will keep it from slipping to the side.

Bring some welding rod 7014 welds pretty well even after years of kicking around at the bottom of my tool box.
Small short jumper cables are handy, your vise grips work as a rod holder and borrow a second battery or two, instant welder.


SD

BJ you are right that he wants to carry too much, but I agree with Fred that you have no idea what to bring if you ever did leave your property.
So BJ when are you heading this way?

Well hell guys! I might just lose some friends here but I am gonna open my mouth anyway.
If it takes all that gear to do what you want to do in our national parks... it is no wonder the sisters are closeing them left and right. To have on MUST TAKE list bailling wire/cable plumber strap duct tape electrical tape autotrans fluid steering fluid oil brake fluid first aidkithose clamps nuts & bolts (diff sizes and lengths) 2gal water gasket sealer/maker and lots of other stuff...
wow! How much of a trail are we leaving for the sisters to come look at?
I have spent much more time in the wilderness than most have made time for. I have never had to have a list like this one. I have left barely a sign that I was ever there..
This list is a sign post of just what is happening in places where the sisters are looking. The sisters could have followed me around for the past 40 years and would never have closed down anything!
Hey! I believe we all should do whatever makes us the happiest. But if you plan ahead on losing tranny fluid, powersteering fluid and motor oil in my park... you have no business there! Like the sisters that get to vote up or down.. I'd vote like they do...from now on you walk!
I have been offroad in Canada, Montanna, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Texas and Mexico. Not to mention other smaller treks. Never have I needed to carry all that stuff.
Big Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Jim, your right except for the fact that wheeling these days has roll over potencial, having at least a quart of 10/30 is smart.
Plastic bags for clean up and disposal works too, not to mention cleaning up after other slob wheelers so the "sisters" have nothing to complain about.

That list is insane, anyone carrying that much junk/weight is a ROOKIE and needs to gain some trail hours to learn that you can not bring everything you could possibly need. Rather learn how to make do with what a pool of fellow wheelers bring in there rigs.
Say a rig in your group rolls and looses 3 q oil, if you have 1q and one other rig has one and you trade a beer (I did not say that) for another q from a passing wheeler to get you back running, you have saved carrying all that oil yourself and you recieved benifit of 4 wheelers spirit in being helped and turn you can give up a q or a tool to help another wheeler at some point.
Then again if all you ever do is wheel alone on trails where you are totaly alone, sure, carry some extra junk.
But that will lead to walking out anyway because what broke you do not have and did not expect to break.

Don't wheel alone.
Be aware of overloading your rig to point of silliness.
Be part of the 4 wheeling community in helpful spirit.


SD

You peeked in the back of my rig didn't you! I said usless stuff. I did NOT mention beer. I always carry a 3 or 4 day supply of beer. Man you never know when you will be broke down or snowed in.
Big JIm <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

The oil pressure sending unit is directly above the oil filter and hugging the block. In order to damage it you'd have to come in through the top or the radiator. Now assuming you did somehow brake it without taking out the oil filter (something not on the list) You would spew all the oil in the engine out in a mater of 30 seconds and you don't have a new one, or a pipe threaded plug to put in its place.




With that list you could practically fully tare down the jeep and rebuild it on the trail.


With the limited space in my YJ there is only room for a quarter of that stuff. I only carry a cheapo harbor freight combo wrench and socket set, ropes, a spare rear u-joint, high lift, come-a-long, screwdrivers, tape, and pliers. With this I barely have enough room for 4 cramped passengers. If there is more than just me in my jeep, we add some fluids and stuff and split the tools between us. Even this is a lot, and I have rarely ever needed to use it. Last time I got my tool box out my buddy had forgotten to put his radiator cap on and I used the tool box to ferry water form a stream.

Actually I was out hunting with an old-timer I work with, we crossed a river in his YJ and for what ever reason (I assume thermal shock) the oil pressure sensor cracked, he had tools and spare nuts & bolts. He took the sensor out, and replaced it with a bolt he had - problem solved, otherwise we would of had a really long walk. I fact I am prety sure that bolt is still there since the sensor is made of plastic he didn't want to replace it.

I guess for some ignorance is bliss. I personally don't want to always be dependent on others to save my butt, I would prefer to be as self sufficient as possible. You are corrct, there are several places where the list can be reduced, channel locks and vise grips and pliars is a little over kill, and I am sure that I will figure out what I need and don't after a while, but that is why I posted.