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Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap *DELETED* [Re: 4RnrRick] #611516 06/15/05 01:47 AM
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Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap [Re: kewlynx] #611517 06/15/05 08:06 AM
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4RnrRick Offline OP
Mudrunner
Well I got a little done tonight, I got the rest of the top of the block cleaned and the carbon knocked off the pistons. The top of the block is also flat. I also quickly checked the head and that too looks within spec. But I will know more when I get it cleaned.

[Linked Image]

I also got the flywheel and exhaust back from the machine shop today and up a bunch of Fel-Pro gaskets that I ordered through Knecht's.

[Linked Image]


Project Quasimodo
'85 Xtra Cab (2wd, 22RTE, Auto => 4wd, 3RZ, w56, 2.28x4.70)

Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap [Re: 4RnrRick] #611518 06/15/05 11:36 PM
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4RnrRick Offline OP
Mudrunner
Found some good info here that I needed for re-assembly the 7MGE / 7M-GE, so I thought I you post some of the info from that site here.

Some cylinder head tech:
[Linked Image]

Some cylinder/engine block tech:
[Linked Image]

Some timing belt tech:
[Linked Image]

Some timing cover tech:
[Linked Image]

Some oil pump and pan tech:
[Linked Image]

Some flatness deck tech:
[Linked Image]

Some flywheel tech:
[Linked Image]


Project Quasimodo
'85 Xtra Cab (2wd, 22RTE, Auto => 4wd, 3RZ, w56, 2.28x4.70)

Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap [Re: 4RnrRick] #611519 06/16/05 08:03 AM
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4RnrRick Offline OP
Mudrunner
Heres the link for the online FSM that I got those pages from since I forgot to add it above:
http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/library/TSRM/index.html



I got the deck surface of the head cleaned and check it for flatness. Worst spot was at .003" and the toyota max is .004". Also the Block was .002" and the max spec is .002". And both of those spots were not where the oringal head gasket was damaged on #6. So it will be just fine especially since I'm torquing everything to 72 ft-lbs. (Which is 20% more than Toyota recommends because 58 ft-lbs just isn't enough for these engines.) Remember guys that this is just suppose to be a reseal and gasket - NOT a full blown rebuild. And since everything is within spec there is no reason for me to go any further into it. Plus I don't have the cash to do that.

I also got the valleys between the valve covers thouroughly cleaned. On this engine thats where the spark plugs go. When I got the motor it had a good inch thick of "chocolate pudding" crap in each valley from where they pressure washed the engine and thats where all the water and oil crap ended up. What a mess that was..... I don't have a before picture - sorry.

[Linked Image]

Then I got the rest of the block cleaned up and painted. I just used some semi gloss black engine paint to make it all one color and with it being black I didn't have to get every nook and cranny perfectly clean. Turned out pretty good.

[Linked Image]

Then I installed the timing belt case, the water pump, crank timing sprocket and oil pump sprocket.

[Linked Image]

Here is a close up picture of the Fel-Pro gasket that I installed.

[Linked Image]

And this is what it looks like now. I was real careful on getting the head on there right. I cleaned and lubed all the head bolts and washers with a light coat of engine oil as per my service manual recommened. Then I really took my time on the torqueing process. First I ran them all down hand tight, then hand tight with a small rachet, Then 30 ft lbs on the torque wrench, Then 40, 50, 60, & finally 72 ft-lbs. Then I ran around them all one more time at 72 to make sure none of them would move.

[Linked Image]


Project Quasimodo
'85 Xtra Cab (2wd, 22RTE, Auto => 4wd, 3RZ, w56, 2.28x4.70)

Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap [Re: 4RnrRick] #611520 06/16/05 11:03 AM
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4mudder Offline
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Killer job it looks awesome keep the posts coming


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Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap [Re: 4mudder] #611521 06/17/05 07:31 AM
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4RnrRick Offline OP
Mudrunner
Got a present from MarlinCrawler today..... Its a 1200 lb pressure plate, ceramic clutch, throwout bearing and pilot bearing. Thanks guys...... I'm not sure if the ceramic clutch is the right application for my driving style but we will see. Hopefully its just sticky enough to hook up and yet with the 1200 lb pressure plate weak enough to let me slip it when I need to.

[Linked Image]

I didn't get much done tonight since life got in the way.... (Selling the 2wd first gen xtra cab, balancing the check book, moving money around in the banks, doing the bills, going shopping, etc...) but what I did work on was getting the intake side of the head thoroughly cleaned.... Check out the top surface of the intake ports.

[Linked Image]

Now the bottom surface of the intake ports. that crap was hard to get off. but I did it.

[Linked Image]

And now the intake side is nice and pretty...incuding around the injectors!

[Linked Image]


Project Quasimodo
'85 Xtra Cab (2wd, 22RTE, Auto => 4wd, 3RZ, w56, 2.28x4.70)

Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap [Re: 4RnrRick] #611522 06/18/05 08:10 AM
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4RnrRick Offline OP
Mudrunner
Well I took today off from work to work on the motor and to do parts runs.... Well it didn't quite work out as planned since I spent 4 hours running around!!!!

But I did get the front of the engine cleaned up.

[Linked Image]

Installed the timing belt.

[Linked Image]

Picked up my new 1988 V6 radiator which is 3 core and 2" thick.

[Linked Image]

And returned the motor mounts that the wrecking yard gave me for some 'REAL' 5M-GE mounts. I (and they) had no idea what they gave me before but they where wrong for this conversion. I still find it odd that they bolted up to the block. Anyways this is what the 5M-GE mounts are suppose to look like to make it possible to bolt this motor directly into the truck/4runner 4 cylinder frames.

[Linked Image]

Then I basically finished assembling the rest of it. The only main parts that are missing is the plenum, throttle body and the exhaust. I'm getting closer to the point where I will actually start working on the 4runner!

[Linked Image]

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Project Quasimodo
'85 Xtra Cab (2wd, 22RTE, Auto => 4wd, 3RZ, w56, 2.28x4.70)

Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap [Re: 4RnrRick] #611523 06/19/05 07:37 AM
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4RnrRick Offline OP
Mudrunner
I got the exhaust side of the head all cleaned and ready for the manifold. But I can't put the exhuast on until I get the Supra oil pan, pickup tube, dip stick tube and dip stick installed which the wrecking yard is still having a hard time getting a hold of.

[Linked Image]

I also got the intake plenum installed.

[Linked Image]

I also got all the rest of the other little stuff taken care of so now its time to start on the runner.

[Linked Image]

But before I started tearinginto the 4runner I decided to get some base line test for its performance.

Test #1
0-40 MPH on flat ground
10.5 second average (2 runs)

Test #2
0-60 MPH on flat ground
23 second average (3 runs)

Test #3
Hillside Drive - mild hill close to the house
Top speed at crest was 48 MPH in 3rd gear

Test #4
Sunset Drive - really steep hill close to the house
Top speed at crest was 31 MPH in 2nd gear

So those should give me some good performance numbers to compare to after I get the new motor installed. I also weighed it at the truck stop and with me in the 4runner it weighed 4500 lbs +/- 10 lbs with an empty gas tank. and just for reference thats with my built 22RE, W56, Dual cases, 1/4" thick drivelines, 5.29 gears, 36" Bias ply IROKS at 15 psi.

I also then did a very thorough compresion test since this motor is up for sale!

#1 Cylinder, 122 PSI dry, 148 PSI wet (26 psi increase)
#2 Cylinder, 133 PSI dry, 174 PSI wet (41 psi increase)
#3 Cylinder, 158 PSI dry, 184 PSI wet (26 psi increase)
#4 Cylinder, 156 PSI dry, 175 PSI wet (19 psi increase)


Project Quasimodo
'85 Xtra Cab (2wd, 22RTE, Auto => 4wd, 3RZ, w56, 2.28x4.70)

Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap [Re: 4RnrRick] #611524 06/19/05 07:37 AM
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4RnrRick Offline OP
Mudrunner
Then Chris and Pete came over to help me pull the motor out of the 4runner. (They just got done pulling Chris' motor at Petes house since he spun 2 rod bearings and was now looking for a good long block.) Thanks Guys for all the help!

[Linked Image]

Just a silly comparision shot ...

[Linked Image]

We stripped it down to the block and Chris decided he wanted the block so we stuck it in a rubber maid container.

[Linked Image]

So we could put it in the back seat of my car to get it over to Petes house. Looks like the car is a little pisse off with it in the back seat....... Pete also had his eyes on my thorley head, so he bought that from me.

[Linked Image]

And now this is what the 4runner looks like!

[Linked Image]


Project Quasimodo
'85 Xtra Cab (2wd, 22RTE, Auto => 4wd, 3RZ, w56, 2.28x4.70)

Re: 4RnrRick is getting a 7M-GE / 7MGE Motor swap [Re: 4RnrRick] #611525 06/20/05 10:59 PM
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4RnrRick Offline OP
Mudrunner
Well I took Fathers Day off from the project to go compete at a RC Rock Crawling Comp..... I had a great time plus I got 1st place in the Unlimited Class with my Clod and 2nd place in the 2.2 Class with "The Wife's" RC which really locks in my position for 1st place in the big truck for the championship points....

Heres some pictures (so far) and info about the event if you guys are interested. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9725


Project Quasimodo
'85 Xtra Cab (2wd, 22RTE, Auto => 4wd, 3RZ, w56, 2.28x4.70)

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