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Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey [Re: SAS] #632811 08/07/05 08:28 AM
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So how much and when ill they be ready?

Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey #632812 08/09/05 01:15 AM
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LTC Don Offline
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So how much and when ill they be ready?


You mean something like this? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

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This stump puller is a simple bumper, but made of capped 2x5 steel tube with 7/16-1/2" plate steel for the mounts.

Current pricing, depending on steel stock availability is around ~$300 plus shipping. Bumper price could go down or up depending on steel pricing. Joe can give more specifics...took these pics Sunday. Bumper shown is on his "current" trail rig so it's been very trail tested <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />.

Cheers,
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Don B.
1991 Trooper LS 2.8L V6 with some stuff
Johnston County Industries
PlanetIsuzoo Discussion Forums
Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey [Re: LTC Don] #632813 08/09/05 01:42 AM
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I truely don't think that anyone could have a possible clue as to what it takes to build something like a bumper until they have actually done it. I was once skeptical of the cost of a fabbed bumper until like Jonesy, I built my half doors. One hundred hours later and hundreds of dollars in expendables, if it were not for the free welding supplies, and the free use of the paint booth it would have not been cost effective. I'm not sure that it was at this point. I have had quite a few offers to build half doors for folks and I can tell you I wouldn't touch it for less than $700.00 a pair. Do you realize just for one quality flap wheel, that might last you 15 minutes of grinding, it costs $8.00?
As for JoeD's quality, I have been running one of his front bumpers, which I nicknamed the minesweeper, and I can tell you the guy that pulled out in front of me sure wishes that I didn't have that bumper. I caved his vehicle and barely tweeked my bumper.
As for me though, I have always been a do it yourselfer. That's probably why I still have a D44 sitting in my garage that I have yet to swap in. I know there are folks that can help me with it, I know there are folks that I can pay to do it, but it just wouldn't be the same for me. Now that I know how to weld, if I got the tools and machinary to do it, then it isn't going on my rig unless it is from my hands. That's nothing against the guys that paid for their mods so don't take it personal. That's just the way I am. If you seen my enormous 308' do it yourself wall, you would know exactly what I'm talking about.


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Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey [Re: LTC Don] #632814 08/09/05 01:55 PM
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SAS Offline
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LTC Don,

Yessir, that's generally what I'm talking about. I'd want some variation from that exact bumper, but not too significantly different. For example, no license plate mount and light, no clevis pins, and a 2" reciever in the center.

A guy in NC is selling them as I've described for $200, but for an early Bronco.


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Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey [Re: SAS] #632815 08/09/05 10:23 PM
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I knew Joe had a really simple bumper. I just couldnt find it on his site. Next year, im going to try and tackle something like that myself....in time.
-J <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey [Re: LTC Don] #632816 08/09/05 11:24 PM
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So how much and when ill they be ready?


You mean something like this? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

[Linked Image]



I'd like to have a bumper like that for the rear of my '98 Rodeo, but with one small change - I'd like to see the steel continued around the sides of the truck so there's a little more protection for the corners.

But that might be another of the problems here: we all have our own visions of what we'd like to see and aren't willing to part with our money unless we get exactly what we want.

I don't subscribe to this idea, though. I know that I don't have the skills to build something like that for my truck, so I'll do what I can (stereo, suspension, brakes, etc.) by myself, then leave the fabbing to the pros.

For what it's worth, I dig the Rodeo bumper at DOR. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


'98 Rodeo, Ranchos, OME 912s, General Grabber AT2 265/70/16s on steelies, Superwinch hubs, G80 code, Pioneer HU... two car seats and cracker crumbs.
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Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey [Re: COTrooper] #632817 08/10/05 04:48 PM
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LTC Don Offline
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I'd like to have a bumper like that for the rear of my '98 Rodeo, but with one small change - I'd like to see the steel continued around the sides of the truck so there's a little more protection for the corners.

But that might be another of the problems here: we all have our own visions of what we'd like to see and aren't willing to part with our money unless we get exactly what we want.


This is the beauty of this particular bumper. It might not be exactly what you want, but in this case, you can get a simple bumper like this, get it installed, then take it to someone in your local area to finish fabbing it out to your liking.

If you tried to describe to Joe what you want, he fabs it and then when you get it and decide it wasn't correct - drama ensues. In this case, you get the base product as pictured then have a local metalsmith meet with you face to face and you get precisely what you want - happiness ensues <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


Props to Joe on the DOR Rodeo bumper though, it really is a work of art. He had a Passport customer from Durham there last Sunday that has one and was getting an ARB bumper installed, it really looked awesome - it's the pic on the DOR home page now.

Cheers,
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Don B.
1991 Trooper LS 2.8L V6 with some stuff
Johnston County Industries
PlanetIsuzoo Discussion Forums
Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey [Re: LTC Don] #632818 08/10/05 05:22 PM
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SAS Offline
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This is the beauty of this particular bumper. It might not be exactly what you want, but in this case, you can get a simple bumper like this, get it installed, then take it to someone in your local area to finish fabbing it out to your liking.


Yes, Sir...that is what I had in mind...a tough, simple, inexpensive bumper as a foundation, and then add-ons (whether done by the vendor, a local fabber, or oneself) to suit individual preferences/requirements. What add-ons would the vendor offer? Up to the vendor, but he/she could theoretically market the foundation bumper for a broad range of vehicles, front and rear. Bumper width and mounting brackets/configuration would then be the only "vehicle model-specific" factors.


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'83 Landcruiser
'94 Landcruiser
Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey [Re: Joe Darlington] #632819 08/10/05 10:28 PM
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Bansil Offline
Body Damage is Cool
I think the poll is missing an item <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> and it looks good <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />.......Joe know's what I'm talking about and Smiley has pics. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Joe is doing a good job with the aftermarket,he is not making a killing with these bumpers.He mention'd his time etc,but failed to mention all the expendables not sure which
sanding type wheels he uses and grinder wheels but they aren't cheap.$10/$20 here and there add up.

Yes you can build a getto simple rear bumper and sell it for under $200.........hehehe plus shipping on an 80# thing.
But it would be just that,a chunk of metal,it would not look good........excuse me ....depends on your taste.
But if someone was to ask you where you got that bumper,would you necessarly want your name mention'd?

anyways.......

On a second gen that type of bumper would look like <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" />,straightup.There is too much junk hanging down etc.that needs to be hack'd off to clean up the frame area,not to mention when you remove the plastic cover something has to be done about the sides,and that's just from the looks department.........not sure what I mean,then one weekend remove your bumper and stand back(it's only a couple bolts)and be amazed at the factory ugliness left from removal of the stock junk.


anyways enough ranting,I like most of the aftermarket product's for our trucks but I prefer.........no.....I enjoy
making my own pcs......it let's me stray from the norm.

one more thing <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> and <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Bansil


EH JOE !!! figured out what's missing ?????????????



EDIT: and Jessica you were pretty well right on the money..
and that's my .02

Last edited by Bansil; 08/10/05 10:30 PM.




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Re: Next DOR Bumper Project - Interest Survey [Re: Bansil] #632820 08/11/05 12:31 AM
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Smiley Offline
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ThereÆs something missing from the Pollà itÆs pleasing to the eyeà and I have a picture of one???


(I'm lost)


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