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Smokeless Oil ??? #635814 08/12/05 07:59 PM
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bearcatfans Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
What do you all think of this for the infamous Montero '95 V6 DOHC 3.5 valve stem seal problem??? I'm thinking about givin' in a go! (About $12.50 / qt.)


smokeless oil

Thanks for any opinions!

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />-Aaron

Re: Smokeless Oil ??? [Re: bearcatfans] #635815 08/12/05 08:35 PM
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Alex Kogan Offline
Body Damage is Cool
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> Can I say snake oil. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />
At this cost you'll quickly spend more then the cost of new seals


92 SR, 285/75R16 Yoko MT ARB locker GAST compressor AirLift 1000 MM10500 Snorkel custom rear bumper
02 Montero LS died protecting the master
08 PowerWagon (stock!)
Re: Smokeless Oil ??? [Re: bearcatfans] #635816 08/12/05 09:00 PM
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MontyMcV Offline
Trail Leader
Who would sell a real and reputable product and have their website start with members.aol.com/?


Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu!
FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
Re: Smokeless Oil ??? [Re: Alex Kogan] #635817 08/12/05 09:07 PM
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bearcatfans Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Seemed like a cheap experiment to me - new valve seals (cant do this myself) $2000-$4500 according to ANY shop around here, --this "snake oil" $75.00 to try. I talked to the guy at the company and he said that they developed this for local shops and couldn't keep up with the orders for the stuff so someone suggested advertising it online. Maybe they are just non-computer savvy gearheads? Not defending them , just seems like an interesting product....

-aaron

Re: Smokeless Oil ??? [Re: bearcatfans] #635818 08/12/05 09:26 PM
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hmm couldn't keep up with the orders from local shops so get more orders from the internet, makes no sense to me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" />

Re: Smokeless Oil ??? [Re: bearcatfans] #635819 08/12/05 09:33 PM
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Alex Kogan Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Quote
Seemed like a cheap experiment to me - new valve seals (cant do this myself) $2000-$4500 according to ANY shop around here

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> where are you <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
I believe, even at the dealership it's 5-6 hours job at whatever rate they charge.


92 SR, 285/75R16 Yoko MT ARB locker GAST compressor AirLift 1000 MM10500 Snorkel custom rear bumper
02 Montero LS died protecting the master
08 PowerWagon (stock!)
Re: Smokeless Oil ??? [Re: Alex Kogan] #635820 08/12/05 09:58 PM
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bearcatfans Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
ALL the shops I talked to here (Dayton, Ohio) said they would have to send out the heads to be machined and all kinds of other work would need to be done. NONE would just do the seals and reassemble the engine. (The Mitsu. factory shop manual shows 16.5 hrs. per side of the engine to do the seals on the DOHC V6 3.5. That's 30 hrs. of labor at $70+/Hr. + Machining & parts <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />


p.s. I guess what I meant to say before was that the guy at the oil company said they do keep up with the demand and since there was such a great demand in their area (South Carolina)for this stuff, someone suggested selling it online...

-aaron

Re: Smokeless Oil ??? [Re: bearcatfans] #635821 08/12/05 10:07 PM
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DaphneD Offline
Roll Me Over
Even if the stuff prevents the oil from smoking when it burns, it doesn't mean that it's fixed the problem - you'd still be burning oil. You seem to be thinking along the lines of "out of sight, out of mind" which is exactly the crowd this product is marketing to. That kind of thinking will get you in deep trouble with an 3.5L SR. [Linked Image]

On top of oil, you'd also be burning money at $12.50/qt! Just because it's stopped producing visible fumes won't mean that it's stopped burning the oil. You'll still need to feed the vehicle at the amount you're burning it and that can add up!

Save the money you were going to spend on snake oil and have the problem fixed. That's my advice.

Re: Smokeless Oil ??? [Re: bearcatfans] #635822 08/12/05 10:15 PM
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Winston Offline
Rock Warrior
I am in the middle of my Auto-RX process for my 95 3.0L SOHC V6 engine. Here is the site where you can purchase it.

www.auto-rx.com

Here is a forum of oil freaks that thinks it is better than sliced bread.

Bob is the Oil Guy

Look under the oil additives section. Many testimonials about this product. Plus it is $25 compared to the $75 for "smokeless" oil.


'90 Montero XLS (Sold, sadly)
'95 Montero LS 160k
'03 Montero Limited 30k
Re: Smokeless Oil ??? [Re: Winston] #635823 08/12/05 10:20 PM
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bearcatfans Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
My two treatments of Auto-RX earlier this year did nothing to quell my blue smoke belcher. It did quiet the motor down a little though.

-aaron

p.s. anyone wanna drive to Dayton to do my valve seals? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> I bought the truck a year ago for $5500 and have put nearly $4000 in it so far. The money train is running low and A cheaper valve seal job would suit me just fine :-)

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