Ok not far off from what I thought might be ok. My next question then is do you mean spring over on the 4.5 lift or just a straight 4.5 lift. As for the tires I'd been wondering whether 35s or 36s would be better. But I wanted everyone elses opinions. This is the first time I've done a ground up Jeep. And should I really use a body lift or just cut out the fenders.