Son of a .... thats not it either. New fuel filter and cleaned up that connection and its still the same old crap. I'm gonna wear my starter out at this rate. Have to start it about 20 times until it stays idling <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I ordered some manuals off ebay on cd for 12 bucks, we will see if that is a rip off or not. I need me a good wiring diagram and a way to read the codes, etc. This is killing me. When one vehicle scews up, they all screw up. The kia started this, then the motorcyle got a flat and I'm waiting on a new inner tube, then last night the drivers side brake caliper lock up on my ranger <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I patched the tube and got the bike ready, and freed up the caliper on the truck, now back to the kia <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />