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Re: Boost presure? [Re: TX76513] #661087 11/11/05 07:00 PM
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EVguy Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
So it looks like my 7-8 psi is a little on the low side considering I have the pump turned up a bit and can go more (no black smoke yet) and I have a big intercooler, NPR truck size.
How do I increase the boost? Cheaply. smile

Thanks
Randy


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Re: Boost presure? [Re: TX76513] #661088 11/13/05 01:25 AM
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ZackaryMac Offline
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[quote]Without increased pump volume you are just wasting time.


Not quite, the extra boost increases the compression ratio.


More compression = heat. Need boost and fuel


Yes and to get more compression you need more fuel not just boost. You can achieve more fuel by adjusting the alda but only to a certain point. To move into the higher boost ranges and have effective results the pumps need to be modified to produce more fuel (beyond the mfg specs).

The efficiency of your engine is directly related to the compression ratio. A higher compression ratio will give you more power out for the same fuel in.
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I have nothing to add to this other than to see all the cool concentric rectangles. Sorry. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Boost presure? [Re: EVguy] #661089 11/13/05 08:57 AM
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Dougal Offline
Wheeler
You increase the boost by changing the wastegate.

You can either swap the spring (involves opening the can which might not be easy) or adjust the length of the rod.

I have done it by cutting the rod and welding in a threaded adjuster like one end of a turnbuckle. You can also just thread the rod and use a locknut rather than welding and risking cooking the wastegate seals.

Shorter rod = later opening and higher boost.

Or you can do what the riceboys use, two bleed valves in series from the pressure line with the wastegate line tee'd from between them. Adjust the bleed valves to adjust the boost.

An EGT gauge is a great idea if you're playing around with fuel and boost. I fried a turbo on friday, the first warning was the EGT reading 880C. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />

Re: Boost presure? [Re: Dougal] #661090 12/20/05 03:32 AM
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EVguy Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Thanks for the tip. I cut the rod and threaded both halves after shortening the rod 1/2".
I used a coupler nut and two jam nuts to reassemble. Shortened it up by about 1/4" to see what that would do. Looks like it has brought boost up to about 11 PSI.
I'm getting an EGT gauge before turning it up anymore.
Thanks again.


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Re: Boost presure? [Re: EVguy] #661091 12/20/05 07:24 AM
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Dougal Offline
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Great.

You'll find that if your intercooler can keep the boost temps under control, that more boost will lower your EGT's.

I have also found that turbo backpressure is roughly double boost, but on a turbo that is too small, your exhaust pressure will skyrocket.
I tried to run a T2 turbine on my 4BD1T in place of the T25, around 3500 rpm the back pressure went to 45psi to provide boost of 15psi.
The T25 would run 30psi to give the same boost almost irrespective of revs.

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