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Re: No check engine light [Re: Madcat] #675748 12/14/05 05:36 AM
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CEL??

You've verified timing with a light?

Re: No check engine light #675749 12/14/05 02:54 PM
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CEL??


Had me wondering too... I think he means Check Engine Light <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Re: No check engine light [Re: Chris72] #675750 12/14/05 04:33 PM
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CEL... Oh yea, the Check Engine Light.... yea.... ummmm.... N/M....


91 Jeep Wrangler YJ, carpet, tires, trailer hitch. yea....
Re: No check engine light [Re: Madcat] #675751 12/14/05 06:48 PM
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When the CEL comes on yeah it'll crank, then all of a sudden catch for like 2 seconds then kill.

If CEL is check engine light... then you are saying sometimes when you turn the key to run it will not momentarily come on? But when it does the engine will try and fire?

The PCM is either bad or not getting power if that light isn't coming on and it won't fire. Check the PCM connections, fuses, ETC...

Re: No check engine light #675752 12/14/05 06:54 PM
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When the CEL comes on yeah it'll crank, then all of a sudden catch for like 2 seconds then kill.

If CEL is check engine light... then you are saying sometimes when you turn the key to run it will not momentarily come on? But when it does the engine will try and fire?

The PCM is either bad or not getting power if that light isn't coming on and it won't fire. Check the PCM connections, fuses, ETC...


Exactly. Does anyone know which wires to look at first???
I've already checked all the fuses in the box under the hood.


Madcat <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


1979 Pontiac Trans-Am - looking 4 a pontiac 455cid
1988 Trooper II - AMC head, .030 overbore, Calmini cam. Toga HV oil pump, Aisins, soon 2 b turbo
1989 Impulse Turbo - Fidanza flywheel, 270cc injectors, turbo-back exhaust, KYBs F/R


Re: No check engine light [Re: Madcat] #675753 12/19/05 08:30 PM
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Well I threw in the towel on this and told him to take it to someone that knows more about electrical than I do. I'll update when he tells me what was wrong for archival purposes.


Madcat <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


1979 Pontiac Trans-Am - looking 4 a pontiac 455cid
1988 Trooper II - AMC head, .030 overbore, Calmini cam. Toga HV oil pump, Aisins, soon 2 b turbo
1989 Impulse Turbo - Fidanza flywheel, 270cc injectors, turbo-back exhaust, KYBs F/R


Re: No check engine light [Re: Madcat] #675754 12/20/05 02:31 AM
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There is a box thing just under the clutch master cylinder on the firewall under the hood. That is the computer. There is at least one harness of wires that comes out of it. That is where I would start in your case, make sure there is that contact grease in there and that there isn't a bunch of water. I'd also make sure the wires are intact and not shorting out. Same goes under the dash up around the fuse block and in that area. Next would be checking all of your wiring harnesses under the dash for a frayed line. Then I would start digging around for ground lines..... Lastly, check the relays. You have at least one that could cause this if I remember right.... You should be able to switch the relays out with eachother as they should be the same.
After all this, I'd have the dealer or an auto-electrical specialist deal with it... have them check the computer out to make sure it is okay, then pull your hair out.


91 Jeep Wrangler YJ, carpet, tires, trailer hitch. yea....
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