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Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
#680520
12/28/05 08:12 AM
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Joined: Oct 2005
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Body Damage is Cool
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So I'm replacing the entire front steering assembley, minus the relay rod cause she's still holdin in there....I was just wondering if anyone had any tips/tricks on working on this stuff to offer up so my job could go a bit smoother.
Also, I'll be rebuilding my power steering gear box here in a couple of weeks, because I'm too cheap to shell out the $200-$400 for a rebuilt one, much less the $2000 that the stealer told me that they wanted <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> Plannin on takin lots of pictures, maybe write up a tech article for the new Archive secton......
Thanks in advance guys and gals!
-1986 TOYOTA 22R ZUK coil rear Torqued T-Bars Marlin HD clutch
Newly rebuilt!! Runnin' like a champ!
AZTTORA #492 TLCA member
"I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." --George W. Bush
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Re: Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
[Re: 4WD22R]
#680521
12/28/05 09:02 AM
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Joined: Oct 2003
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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I've only changed my idler arm so far. It was pretty straight forward. Three bolts and with the aid of a pickle fork & a 3lb hammer, it came right off. And the castleated nut too. Took no more than a half hour. Good luck with it all.
1994 P'up, 22RE, K&N, LCE exhaust sys (header, cat, muffler, 2.25" pipe), 1" RB seat lift, 1" RB body lift, 1.5" rear lift via shackles, Rancho 5000's, 33" Pro Comp M/T's, 4.88's w/ Aussie lockers front & back
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Re: Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
[Re: 4WD22R]
#680522
12/28/05 10:36 AM
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Joined: Apr 2000
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Roll Me Over
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go to HARBOR FREIGHT and ppick up their $6 tie rod and pitman arm puller...
the tie rod one saves you from beating on the things...
leo d. 90 4runner, v6, auto, WCOR CitB kit, marlin duals, arb rear, tt front 4.88, blah, blah, blah... Pres. of TEAM IFS! and GETTING OFF 4WD Club member
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Re: Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
[Re: 4WD22R]
#680523
12/28/05 01:47 PM
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Joined: Sep 2003
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Rock Warrior
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The pitman arms gonna be a problem. Even with a puller they dont want to come off. You can try the puller keeping pressure on it and tapping with a bfh. I ended up cutting mine off with an angle grinder which is actually the easiest way to do it. Just dont cut into the splines. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
'04 Taco x-cab 3RZ FE stock (daily driver) '90 x-cab 22RE stock '82 Hilux 6" lift (ACES HI) '82 2-Hiluxs' Rally Edition (parts) '81 Hilux 3" lift (parts/restore)
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Re: Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
[Re: ACES_HI]
#680524
12/28/05 02:57 PM
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If you soak it good in penetrant for a few days in advance, then use a propane torch to heat the arm while the puller is putting pressure on it, it will come loose. The heat of the torch will expand the arm just enough to let it slide off. Be patient...
If Mad Max had a 4runner...
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Re: Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
[Re: ACES_HI]
#680525
12/28/05 11:02 PM
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 102
Wheeler
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The pitman arms gonna be a problem. Even with a puller they dont want to come off. You can try the puller keeping pressure on it and tapping with a bfh. I ended up cutting mine off with an angle grinder which is actually the easiest way to do it. Just dont cut into the splines. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Thank GAWD for my pneumatic picklefork. Pulling the idler arm was easier than rebuilding it (I use the rebuild kit instead buying another one).
1993 4Runner SR-5 4WD V-6 Auto Trans 1990 Pick-up (Hilux) 2WD SR-5 V-6 Auto Trans
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Re: Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
[Re: TexJeff87]
#680526
12/28/05 11:23 PM
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 66
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Been there! I broke two of the harbor freight pullers on my ball joints. I rented one from Auto Zone for a $20 deposit and it worked great. For the pitman arm, I used the grider w/ a cutting disc. Two slices and it released the tension, the puller then took it off. I broke a pickle fork before I got the puller.
Good Luck!
Anthony
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Re: Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
[Re: wave]
#680527
12/29/05 01:17 AM
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Hmmmm so it sounds like the pittman arm is gonna be the fun part. I got the entire idler arm assembley so no worries about pullin that thing, three bolts and disconnect it from the relay rod and I'm done <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I am looking foreward to some steering that is actually tight though. It's pretty bad now, if you watch the pittman arm to relay rod connection while I wiggle the wheel it's got about 3 inches of play <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> can someone say "near failure"?
Thanks for the help guys!
-1986 TOYOTA 22R ZUK coil rear Torqued T-Bars Marlin HD clutch
Newly rebuilt!! Runnin' like a champ!
AZTTORA #492 TLCA member
"I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." --George W. Bush
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Re: Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
[Re: 4WD22R]
#680528
12/29/05 06:40 AM
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Joined: Aug 2004
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Body Damage is Cool
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Not to sound like a dub-a$$, but why do you need to pull the pitman arm at all? What is there to wear out?
If Mad Max had a 4runner...
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Re: Tie rods, Pitman arm, Idler arm....That's a Full Days Work!!!!
[Re: TexJeff87]
#680529
12/29/05 07:01 AM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,101
Body Damage is Cool
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the pitman arms on IFS trucks have the rod end built into them, rather than having a taper for a tie rod end like the knuckles.
it's considered a wear item though i don't think they go out all that often -- i picked up a moog unit from carquest today for a little over $50.
'79 sport 4x4 longbed <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> 20/22R hybrid with EB's OS valves, 268c cam, offy intake, weber 32/36, thorley header, 5 speed swap, 34" LTBs, downey 3" springs, marlin hysteer, 4.88s and locked
'91 4x4 shortbed 22R-E, W56, the dd!
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