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Transmission pan removal info request
#684575
01/10/06 03:34 AM
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Anonymous
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I need to remove the transmission pan to my '91 Montero to fix the drain bolt. The threaded insert inside has come loose and it leaks and I cannot remove the bolt .. it just spins. Can anyone help me with some advice on how to do this? There's a strength member across the back bolts of the pan and I don't know how to remove it.
Help ~!
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
#684576
01/10/06 03:42 AM
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I haven't done that job in-frame, but others here have.... maybe they can help. Meanwhile, I think you have to either remove the front axles and differential - or - unbolt the engine mounts and raise the engine about an inch or so.
Good luck, Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: FrankR]
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01/10/06 03:49 AM
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Anonymous
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I don't see why the front axles or diff would have to move. The transmission mount is a transverse member that the tranny rest on and it obscures the rear bolts on the pan. Wish I had a book on this thing. I also want to change the filter (automatic 4-speed) .. there must be a procedure for doing this in-frame.
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
#684578
01/10/06 04:01 AM
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Sorry - I misread your first post and thought you were trying to remove the engine oil pan. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
To remove the transmission pan you have to support the t-case and remove the #2 transmission crossmember. Not too terrible.
Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: FrankR]
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01/10/06 04:05 AM
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Anonymous
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I just found an article in the archive, but it's not too well written. Looks like I just jack up the T-case and then unbolt the cushion bolts and then the crossmember bolts. Apparently the dipstick has to be unbolted from the pan, too. I'll have to visualize all this tomorrow when I get under it. This leak is terrible ~! Any other tips from you guys?
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
#684580
01/10/06 04:11 AM
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when I removed my pan I also support the trans on the bell housing. While your in there you might want to consider a new filter and maybe a kickdown cable since they stretch over time.
1989 Montero LS (sold) 1994 Cherokee Country bone stock
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: v6lsmonty]
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01/10/06 04:15 AM
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Anonymous
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Already got the filter and gasket. I'm going to have to replace the drain plug and I'm considering a simple brass fitting with a cap since the inner threaded piece has come loose. Hope there's room for a nut inside the pan. I gotta stop this leakage.
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
#684582
01/10/06 04:20 AM
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The dipstick is a 2-part piece with an o-ring seal. The lower half will come out with the pan. I'm not sure you have to remove the upper part - maybe so (it's not fun to do) - maybe you can pull the pan and separate the dipstick halves without unbolting the top half - it's worth a try.
You have 2 bolts on the cushion, 2 on the rear "T" member and 8 on the crossmember.... it's heavy, so be careful.
Otherwise, that's about all there is to it. While you have the pan off, you might want to replace the screen if it's gunked up.... if not, leave it alone. If so, you might need 2 screen gaskets - only 1 comes with the screen and another like it is under the screen mounting flange (it might stay in place without damage on removal). You'll want a new pan gasket, also.
Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: FrankR]
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01/10/06 11:51 PM
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Anonymous
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Lookslike the shift linkage must come off, too, and it's attached to both the tranny and the crossmember. It looks a little tricky, so I'll just have to take notes on how I remove it. That crossmember really does look heavy, too.
Since I can't drain the oil through the plug because it won't screw out, I'm dreading this because the fluid will have to leak out along the edges of the pan before removal can be done. I'm hoping to get a plastic hose into the filler pipe and suck some of that fluid out first. Is this feasible or are there obstacles there?
Boy, this is gonna be a two-man job, I think.
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
#684584
01/11/06 12:23 AM
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You could probably siphon or pump some out through the fill pipe... maybe get a 12v fuel pump and stick the inlet hose inside the tube. Maybe you could drill through the drain bolt and get most of it that way.
An alternate suggestion would be to put a large pan under the transmission pan, loosen the bolts a little at a time and let it drain out of the sides until you get to the pan gasket level - then remove the bolts on one end until the remaining oil dumps out of the end of the pan.
Yes, the linkage has to be removed - it's not as bad as it looks.... you'll be able to figure out how it goes back together.
Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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