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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: FrankR]
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01/11/06 02:59 AM
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Anonymous
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So the tailshaft housing is the lift point for the transfer case or is the case lifted by the gearcase on the right side (maybe twisting the whole assembly)? I can't lift the tailshaft housing with the crossmember in place, so it seems logical that the jack be placed on the gearcase to lift it. I may very well drill out the drain plug; that's a good idea. I plan to replace it anyway with an allen bolt. Anybody know what size that drain bolt is?
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
#684586
01/11/06 08:31 AM
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Support the t-case near the outside edge, driver side - in the area of the torque damper... that should make it easier to work around the transmission. If necessary, you can support it at the tailhousing, but as you said, that makes it difficult.
Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: FrankR]
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01/11/06 05:00 PM
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There are pumps made just for sucking oil out of a dipstick tube. I think one is called Mityvac and another is called Topsider. Some people like to change their oil that way, and some people have to (boats).
'90 Montero XLS (Sold, sadly) '95 Montero LS 160k '03 Montero Limited 30k
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: Winston]
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01/11/06 05:25 PM
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I've changed oil in many a boat engine that way - on my last boat I mounted an oil trasfer pump in the bilge and connected it so all I had to do to change oil was turn a valve and flip the pump switch. It was a heck of a lot better than trying to suck it out through the dipstick. Some of those pumps like Jabsco are fairly expensive, though - why I recommended a cheap 12v fuel pump...My initial idea was to use one similar to this: Electric Fuel Pump I have a similar one that I find a use for from time to time.... it should have no trouble with thin A/T fluid. There are also hand pumps that can be used..... you could even set up a siphon system with some tubing and a hand priming bulb from a boat fuel system... like this, but cheaper is probably available from WalMart: Fuel Line If you use the siphon line, you'd need to reduce the tubing size. Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: FrankR]
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01/12/06 02:31 AM
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Anonymous
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I've got a big old model 12-Volt fuel pump (clunker-style) and that's what I'm gonna use to drain down the tranny; thanks for the advice. How far upward can I move the tranny when I put the jack to it? Glad the Monty has so much ground clearance; I don't think I'll need to lift the vehicle at all for this and that means the jack stands won't have to be too tall for the job.
Anybody know the size of the transmission drain plug for the 91 Montero auto tranny?
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
#684590
01/12/06 02:56 AM
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You'll be limited by the fill tube until the pan is off - or unless you unbolt the upper part of the tube at the bellhousing. The roll stopper is also a limiter. Once the fill tube, roll stopper and rear prop shaft are removed, you can move it as far as it'll go, but I don't see the need. If you try to jack it, be careful of the hard lines... I don't remember if they're attached to anything that might cause a crimp if they're not unbolted.
Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: FrankR]
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01/14/06 03:05 AM
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I'm gonna make another attempt to seal up the plug tomorrow with a round plastic plate and an O-ring. The O-ring will surround the drainplug indentation and be RTV'd in place there. Then I'll RTV the round plastic plate over that with heavy RTV outside the O-ring. Hold it in place with a bottle jack and let it cure. If that holds, I can use the fuel pump to remove old fluid when it's changing time. I think the RTV will allow flexing and expansion.
The plate is a wall-protector for doorknobs that tend to strike the wall. I think this will work and save me a lot of labor.
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
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01/14/06 03:48 AM
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I'm not sure if you've stripped the drain bolt threads or the pan threads or exactly what has happened, but if the threads are stripped, have you tried to put downward pressure on the bolt and see if you can get the threads to bite? If you can get a screwdriver under the head of the drain plug (pry on it), maybe you can get it started.
Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
[Re: FrankR]
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01/14/06 11:31 PM
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Anonymous
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Tried that with a screwdriver. I think the insert inside is spinning, so if I do succeed in removing the drain bolt then I have another problem with the loose insert.
I did the patch today and it appears to be holding very well. The plastic plate is glued with a special high temp RTV by Locktite and there's a large diameter O-ring surrounding the indent for the drain plug. From the O-ring outward is solid RTV holding onto the drain pan (which was roughed up with sandpaper and degreased thoroughly). A bottle jack held a 2X4 against the plate while the RTV set up and I have a heat lamp on the plate right now. The whole thing feels very solid and there's no leakage at all. I don't think the fluid can make it past the O-ring at all .. and even if it did, there's be a solid inch of this RTV for it to penetrate.
Got my fingers crossed. Wish me luck.
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Re: Transmission pan removal info request
#684594
01/14/06 11:52 PM
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Good luck! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Frank
'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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