Have you ever test driven a commander off-road... OMG it's just as good as a Dodge Dakota. It's such a shame they killed the XJ for that blasphemy. I donÆt know if you have read the new 4 wheeler but it scored less than an H3. IÆve seen a couple of the weekenders on the trails up here and at the dunes, it may have been the driver, but the H3 get anywhere. Rating a jeep below that??? ACK!



The new wrangler looks fine to me. Supposedly the frame is stiffer and he coils are softer. It also has a lot of the amenityÆs a lot of the Toy and Mitsu guys wish jeeps had and covet about there vehicle. I think the older TJs and YJs are going to start becoming more like the CJs and the CJs are going to get like Wileys.